5chaap2k
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Hi there,
I'm posting here for a while now and showed some pictures of the car, but didn't find the time to tell about my x16xe project 
It all started wit another exhaust and a K&N universal sportsfilter wich surprised me alot wit a dynorun @ 119 BHP @ 5690rpm/151Nm @ 4780rpm (that's an increase of 13BHP without de-catting the exhaust  )
dynograph can be found here:
http://fluitje.xs4all.nl/ctc/dyno-graphs/5chaap2k/2004-corsa-standard-klein.jpg
Well.. that just tickled me to go and fetch some more of those lovely bhp's
so i started going on!
So I got a mantzel powerbox installed (it was a 2nd hand box so i painted and polished it)
Only a few weeks later i managed to destroy the standard headgasket including some of the headnuts (dont know if i'm using the right word)
so it became obvious that a minor rebuild was needed.
I didn't feel like doing this again after a little time so while the repairs got done i got:
- head skimmed
- new valveseals
- new waterpump
- spesso racing headgasket
and i took over a set of kentcams sports-r 260 (COR1612) wich got installed while rebuilding the head
however i forgat to do my homework on the kentcams so after installation the car went on a stationairy rampage, overfueling like a bitch that drunk too much..
so i was forced to go decat (cat.converter doesn't like the taste of unburned fuel)
to get the stationairy run under my own controll ik installed a FSE Powerboostvalve to be able to play around a bit with the fuelpressure.
right after that i went to a local engineer to do a dynorun, remap the ecu and do a second run.
sad but true his computers refused to start up the remapping software so the only thing that happenned that day was 1 run without print just to measure the air-fuel ratio to check if the powerboostvalve was adjusted correctly..
while looking @ the monitor after the run i got amazed a bit..
it showed a reading of 160BHP @ 6800rpm (wich also is the revlimiter)
i'm wondering what will be unleashed if the ecu got remapped and the revlimiter kicked up to 7800 rpm.
some pictures taken that day:
A few weeks later the enginering firm still didn't have his software running so i checked out of their clientlist and got myself an appointment at mantzel tuning in germany ( http://www.mantzel.de ) as they're quit known with opel/vauxhall and alway have their stuff sorted out.
next friday my corsa will be remapped by mantzel together with a friend of mine wich had kind of the same setup but only with other cams and a bigger exhaust.
wish me luck @ mantzel! 
[Edited on 29-06-2005 by 5chaap2k]
[Edited on 04-07-2005 by 5chaap2k]
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Cybermonkey
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thats one strong 16XE! 160bhp is damn good going!
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Cybermonkey
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good torque on the graph too. 110lb/ft with 120bhp.
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5chaap2k
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to bad they didn't give me a printout.. (didn't pay so that's quite normal)
i wonder if anyone else here also had the kentcams COR1612 in his/her x16xe or x14xe because i never expected it to mess up the stationairy run like this..
cams specs:
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Make - Model - Part Number - Application - Power Band - Cam Lift - Valve Lift - Duration - Timing Figures - Valve Timing - Valve Clearance
Vauxhall - 1.6 16 Valve Corsa - COR1612 - Sports 'R' - 2500-7000 - 10.08mm - 10.08mm - 260 Degrees - 20/60 60/20 - 110/110 Degrees - 0.25mm
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Cybermonkey
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did you have the remap done for the cams?
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5chaap2k
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not yet.. as i tried to tell in my 1st post the engineer i went to didn't get his remapping software running.
1st of july i'll have it remapped by mantzel
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5chaap2k
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this is a printout of a friend of mine wich will go wiith me to also have his ecu remapped again because he had his head 'done' (inlets flowed)
click here:
http://fluitje.xs4all.nl/ctc/dyno-graphs/Axel/162pk-twister-klein.gif
he has almost the same setup exept:
- other cams i believe mantzels
- bigger accelleratorvalve
- already has a remapped ecu
- group A ehaust
- green twister system
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Cybermonkey
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nice graph, although the torque is peaking very very high in the rev range.
I suspect your problems result from not having a remap done for the cams. checked the ICV though?
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5chaap2k
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the icv keeps getting dirty indeed.. and i keep on cleaning it
the /axel/ graph isn't mine ey! that a printout of my friend's x16xe corsa
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Cybermonkey
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aaah cool, bet it revs nicely! well i reckon the sooner a remap is done the better, dont wanna be melting a piston do you
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5chaap2k
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no not at all 
i set the pbv to overfuel the engine a bit just to prevent that from happenning (underfuel is evil)
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Cybermonkey
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indeed, getting any backfire?
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5chaap2k
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no flames but some loud bang's while rolling out in revs people instantly pulling over to check their tires.. kinda funny but it also uses a bit more fuell now
i'm stil wondering why i didn't get any tickets for the noise
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Stu_22
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where did you get the fuel pressure gauge from?
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Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by 5chaap2k
no flames but some loud bang's while rolling out in revs people instantly pulling over to check their tires.. kinda funny but it also uses a bit more fuell now
i'm stil wondering why i didn't get any tickets for the noise
yeah a good sign i guess that there is enough fuel getting through.
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5chaap2k
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu_22
where did you get the fuel pressure gauge from?
it is a Sytec gauge but it's commonly deliverred with the FSE Powerboostvalve
i got it from a dutch tuningshop called biesheuvel ( http://www.biesheuvel.nl )
direct link:
http://www.biesheuvel.nl/shop/page/fse
[Edited on 29-06-2005 by 5chaap2k]
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Ojc
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Thats excellent, what duration cams are you running? I am going to be running this spec in the near future and hope to be running 145bhp (BTW I have the X16XE in the Corsa A)
Mantzel inlet - GOT this already
Piper 264 Cams - Piper C16VBP285H - £366.00
Janspeed Manifold - Roadrunner - £180.00
Unichip & mapping session - Owen Developments - £500.00
ARP conrod bolts - SBD - £65.00
SBD aluminum cambelt rollers -
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Ojc
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Oh and I thought Mantzel had gone under? If they are still operating I would'nt mind getting hold of one of there chips they sell.
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Tom
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Also if you turn the limiter up you'll defo need APR conrods imo 
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Ojc
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You talking to me or our Dutch friend?
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5chaap2k
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mantzel was never gone.. they made a... damn here goes the bad english again
restart under the same company name?
The ecu remap is done on a mantzel chip!
my friend allready has one and i'm getting one.. as for the duration of the cams plz check my 2nd reply where i posted all the cam specs incl. duration
what are apr conrods?
i'm dutch so i think i need a kiddy-explanation to understand (pictures?)
tnx in advance
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Robin
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those are the cams i'm getting with my throttle bodies on an X14XE
i'm hoping for 145bhp at least
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5chaap2k
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yes these cams are best used with an aftermarket injection system and ecu like TB's and DTA
But i think i can also have lot of fun with a mantzel chip, powerboostvalve and powerbox also a littlebit after market
does anybody here have it;s gsi painted by hand (rolled) ?
just curious
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by 5chaap2k
mantzel was never gone.. they made a... damn here goes the bad english again
restart under the same company name?
The ecu remap is done on a mantzel chip!
my friend allready has one and i'm getting one.. as for the duration of the cams plz check my 2nd reply where i posted all the cam specs incl. duration
what are apr conrods?
i'm dutch so i think i need a kiddy-explanation to understand (pictures?)
tnx in advance
Intresting, very intersting indeed. Do you have a new contact telephone number for Mantzel now?
ARP Conrod bolts are used to compensate for the higher rev limit (strengthening the internals of the engine)
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5chaap2k
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contact is still mario there
theyve recently launched a new website
http://www.mantzel.de
tel nr is also there
i faxed everything over to him
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