Ojc
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Thanks to our Dutch friend 5chaap2k, he has informed us that Mantzel have started up again and recently opened a new website http://www.mantzel.de/
Details below, note the contact e-mail address.
Mantzel opel tuning
autech GmbH
Zum Eisenhammer 3
46049 Oberhausen
Tel: 0208 / 85059-0
Fax: 0208 / 85059-20
E-Mail: info@mantzel.de
Ansprechpartner:
Herr Mario Coric-Ufermann
Registergericht: Duisburg
HRB-Nummer: 17615
Umsatzsteuernr.: DE 814260370
Aufrufe bisher: 7731
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Adam-D
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Registered: 11th May 02
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how much power can be had with a gsi engine?
with mantzel, cams, exhaust manifold
and mapping
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Ojc
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140-150bhp
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Adam-D
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sounds good to me whats the mantzel like?
you said all the power is top end? is there any increase in torque?
what 1/4 mile would a stripped one run at a guess?
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AK
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Registered: 5th Jul 00
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low 15's if your good.... high 15's if your not...
It's pretty much a top end rev thing, any cams worth fitting will be working best up the revs too....
so.... ARP's and metal idlers will be a good idea 
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Adam-D
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doin my head in this 
mantzel
or
carbs ?
arp and idlers etc will fitted with re-build
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AK
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throttle bodies
i'd prefer a mantzel over carbs just for the hassle of setting up carbs, poor mapping (i.e none), fuel econ etc....
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Adam-D
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throttle bodies are very expensive
what would give the most usable power and good spead of power throu the rev range? not just high revs
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3CorsaMeal
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
throttle bodies are very expensive
what would give the most usable power and good spead of power throu the rev range? not just high revs
V6
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Adam-D
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no
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Honza
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Mantzel have started up again
Mantzel hasn't been gone !
The only difference is that Dieter Mantzel is retired now, and the paperwork took a lot of time, a lot of people thought that they were gone, but the place has been running all the time.
They are busy with a new showroom and changing the whole place.
And also a new website...
But if somebody had phoned them or send them an email, you would had seen they were there all the time 
[Edited on 30-06-2005 by Honza]
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AK
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if you after driveablity just stick with a standard engine
Carbs.... in my eyes..... are a bit of a step back in time.... ECU's are usefull
Fair enough carbs on a big snorting v8.... but this is a 1.6 4pot thats got heaps and heaps of daft sensors
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Adam-D
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ok
so in your opinion what would be best for the 1.6?
im making a track car/ 1/4 mile
3k budget
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3CorsaMeal
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gearbox
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AK
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throttle bodies..... much wider, flatter torque spread.
Mantzel is peaky.....
Do it in stages if you cant affors it. 3k will get the TB's on and mapped.....
the car will still go well on std cams etc.
Any cams that are worth fitting require new pistons anyway, or your existing pistons machined with pockets to allow your valves to work.
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Adam-D
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cheers
ill look into it
2ltr poppd into my head aswell grrr
but its a lot of hassle to fit an engine
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AK
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no it isnt.... just extra cost for mounts, shafts etc
If i was to do a 1.6.....
stage1:
Fit TB's and map
fit ARP rod bolts
Stage 2:
Pocketed pistons, alu rollers, cams (270+)
re-map
stage3:
crank, flywheel and gearbox mods
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Ditch
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Stage 4: Cut it into little bits, fit plastic windows and take a crap to remove weight
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Paul_J
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most people that have carbs don't see great gains as they don't have them set up properly - also fuel economy usually really really suffers...
with a mantzel your looking at a guarenteed power gain that's not bad.
as Ak says go for TBs
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3CorsaMeal
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Stage 5:
take pics, show corsasport, await blessings which help extend ego, include some pics of car owner drinking beer and/or pulling a silly face
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5chaap2k
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hey honza!
didn't know u we're here also haha
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AK
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i've not passed stage 1 on my corsa yet..... doing it in reverse order :§
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Honza
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Mantzel have started up again
Mantzel hasn't been gone !
The only difference is that Dieter Mantzel is retired now, and the paperwork took a lot of time, a lot of people thought that they were gone, but the place has been running all the time.
They are busy with a new showroom and changing the whole place.
And also a new website...
But if somebody had phoned them or send them an email, you would had seen they were there all the time
[Edited on 30-06-2005 by Honza]
Grrr, people on this board annoy me when they make up stories of companies going under before actually knowing the facts, I found it strange how Mantzel a successful company which has been running for years would all of a sudden collapse.
What makes it worse is that Courtney stopped advertising Mantzel items so made people think they HAD gone under.
Its excellent news and a big thank you to our Dutch friends for pointing this out to us 
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AK
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Registered: 5th Jul 00
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do you have yours fitted yet?
if so.... link a post to you waffling about it, or tell me by email, ken
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Ojc
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I sent an e-mail, but I will find the link KEN
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