Rebrabuk
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Crank sensor and cam sensors knackered, car in limp mode and banging noise coming from inside engine when car is running... 
Been to Vauxhall today who quoted me £180 to strip and check timing, a further £180 to replace crank sensor and a further £110 to replace cam sensors. So i was looking at £500 bill and they couldnt guarantee a fix.
Crank sensor on order and cam sensors getting ordered tomorrow but i can't see the sensors curing the banging noise. Something must be knackered inside of there... 
Going to get sensors fitted by backstreet garage because Vauxhall were quoting me for 3 hours labour to fit them but i've been told its a half hour job for each of them.
I'm now looking for a £50 banger with a couple months MOT to drive around in incase the Vectra needs a rebuild (looking very likely)..
[Edited on 23-05-2006 by Rebrabuk]
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Eck
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ah thats unlucky mate a rebuild would cost a few bob 
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jamesvalver
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which engine is in the vectra? if its the xev then there is a modified camshaft sensor that will be needed. used to fit alot of these to the omegas when i worked at vauxhall.
as for the knocking, the new sensors might sort it as if the ecu is getting the wrong timing signals then it could be telling the ecu the timing is different to what it actually is
[Edited on 16-05-2006 by jamesvalver]
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Rebrabuk
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It's an X25XE..
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mav
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it's a 2.5 V6 , my old one..
Nightmare marc, going to be costly, how many miles has it done now? not enought to warrant a rebuild i am sure
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Rebrabuk
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quote:
Originally posted by mav
how many miles has it done now? not enought to warrant a rebuild i am sure
98k..
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mav
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 already....
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jamesvalver
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hmmm..... not sure then. sorry............ i wouldnt want to worry to much atm. get the sensors sorted and if its still knocking than find a 3.0 bottom end and some mv6 cams 
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Rebrabuk
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Was on 77k when i bought it? 
15 months - 20k.. Not that many...
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Rebrabuk
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quote:
Originally posted by jamesvalver
find a 3.0 bottom end and some mv6 cams
Can't afford a new engine (or a rebuild). Not sure what i can do if/when it comes to that stage...
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SetH
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gutted for your m8, lets hope its the sensors. Other than that there must be loads of those blocks kicking around cheap.
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Rebrabuk
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There's loads kicking around but still looking at couple of hundred quid to buy one and no guarantee that it's not in a worse state than mine, but the labour costs involved to rebuild the things is not so cheap..
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Marc
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Sounds like a nice cheap rebuild 
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mav
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quote:
Originally posted by Rebrabuk
Was on 77k when i bought it?
15 months - 20k.. Not that many...
was it 15 months already....
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Rebrabuk
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February 5th 2005 - 77k.
May 17th 2006 - 99k.
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Ditch
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stick a C20LET in there...
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mwg
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did you drive it anywhere with the knocking noise coming from the engine?
if it comes to the worst then use it as an excuse to put a 3.0 in there!
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Rebrabuk
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
did you drive it anywhere with the knocking noise coming from the engine?
Drove it home from work on Monday night, to the garage on Tuesday morning and back home from the garage on Tuesday afternoon.
Whilst it was in the garage the Vauxhall monkey was revving the tits off it which probably didn't help it. I was sitting in the waiting room watching him and i assumed he must've fixed it to be doing that but turned out he had done fuck all with it other than Tech2 it and rev it... 
C20LETS and 3.0's aren't cheap. I have NO money...
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Rebrabuk
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Changed crank sensor and cam sensor myself.. Saved me £190 in labour charges at Vauxhall. 
But fault still present..
Had car to mates garage this morning and he thinks i might have had a faulty timing belt kit fitted as one of the tensioners/rollers is making a slightly whirring noise (i can't really tell but he knows what he's listening for). He think this might've caused my timing to jump a tooth and knock my cams out of sync (or something like that )..
Another mate has been to have a listen to it and he thinks i've got a knackered valve in cylinder 5 or 6 and he agrees that the tensioner/roller is too noisey. He's going to strip the timing covers off on Tuesday to see if the timing has jumped a tooth and caused the knackered valve before i take it into garage on Wednesday where it will be left until the full extent of the damage is assessed.
Either way it's definately needing a head rebuild.
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ed
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You can usually jump a tooth or 2 and not break valves. However, if it is a bent valve then it sounds like a much bigger job than it actually is. I had all 16 valves out of my 2.0, cleaned then back in again in just over half a day.
If you only need to replace 12 as only one head is faulty, or maybe even just the faulty ones then don't worry about it. Could even DIY it!
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Rebrabuk
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No chance of me DIY'ing it...
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ainsley_brader
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diy it lol
ou cant really compare the v6 to the 2.0. Would take longer to get all the inlet crap of a v6 than to getthe head of the 2.0.
Im betting its a little end gone rather than a valve!
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ed
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It's the same principle though. Of course it will take longer to dismantle the engine because there are more things to do but it's no more difficult.
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Rebrabuk
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Prior to last week i'd never even touched an engine before never mind stripped and rebuilt one...
I am keen to learn how to dismantle them/rebuild them, but i can't really do it on mine as i desperately need it (or a replacement) back on the road..
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Steve
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big end bearings?
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