AK
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who has one...
I'm not talking 'styled' 1.0 12v's etc...
Must be the full package....
body/engine/cage etc
AndyH
Broster
Jr
ME
AdamB
and when when when are we going to get a trackday together ye slags!
Crail trackday on the 24th June?
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Teddy
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Im gunna add mine to that list very soon 
Ill be up for that 
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Dave A
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im almost there, just need to get my 4 pots and new brake lines fitted and I will be ready.
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Daimo B
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Id say theres only 3 of you on here with a track setup car. You, Andy and Adam.
Theres also a guy with a matt black 2.0 on throttle bodies, 15" Comp alloys etc.
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Dave A
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so what about mine and brosters
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Daimo B
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Sorry, don't know your car, just what i've seen and remember.
I'd say Brosters (Red 1.6 on TB????) is a nippy road car. Its not really been track setup. Same as JRs, its not track setup, its just a very light shell and tuned engine (well, more than that, but you understand my point?)
IMO, putting a suspension kit, stripping the car, and tuning the engine isn't setting up up for track.
Track setup involves more suspension tweeks, cages (welded, not bolt), chassis strengthening, complete brake setups etc...
Before the "haters" start, its what I think a track car is, thats I as in ME.
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Adam_B
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a roll cage is not essential for trackday fun, anything with good brakes and and reliable engine is.
[Edited on 14-06-2006 by Adam_B]
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AK
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BAZ's black beasty isnt circuit... just build for 1/4mile i think
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
a roll cage is not essential for trackday fun, anything with good brakes and and reliable engine is.
Totally agree. You can actually have more fun in smaller engined cars as you can work on your lines, braking points, apex's and work on keeping the speed all the time instead of loosing it then spending 20 minutes trying to pickup speed again.
But Adams post is title True Track Corsas..... Track corsas is one thing, but a TRUE track corsa, is a completly different kettle of fish.
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Adam_B
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my car is deperate for an MOT, if i can get it sorted next week i will consider crail. never been there, worth the trek?
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AK
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Daimo - the 205 was much more fun than the corsa...
Done two trackdays in each this year. The corsa was a lot faster in a straight line, but felt like it wanted to kill you on the corners. (Stoneyginger said it handled well  ) Arse was way to waggly for me liking.
The 205 is a lot more neatral and you can be more agressive with throttle etc without going past your limits 
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
my car is deperate for an MOT, if i can get it sorted next week i will consider crail. never been there, worth the trek?
its not the best... but it'll be a full day out..
Track from 10 till 3... then timed 1/4 till 10pm or something after
the track is flat.... and wide.... old airfield
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Adam_B
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adam, im not sure how to describe it but on your corsa do you get like passive oversteer. you turn in, then almost a second later you feel the back of the car move a bit more? almost like all the rear suspension is loose.... mine is like that and im not sure why, have changed everything for new or straight stuff, still does it.
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Daimo B
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AK - Completly agree. Arse is very twitchy on a Corsa under extreme braking. I've tried to add more weight to the ass the even out the weigh balance (the exhausts, boot etc...) and it does feel more stable, but its not going to get much better......
The more and more i get older, the more and more i know how pants the car is.
Still love it to bits though Sell me your busted TB engine
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AK
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thats exactly what its like!!!
Dreadfull in the wet
Turn it... going fine... then whoaaa... there goes the ass
What ARB's are you running? Ride height?
my rears coilovers are seized... so its too low at the rear
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
AK - Completly agree. Arse is very twitchy on a Corsa under extreme braking. I've tried to add more weight to the ass the even out the weigh balance (the exhausts, boot etc...) and it does feel more stable, but its not going to get much better......
The more and more i get older, the more and more i know how pants the car is.
Still love it to bits though Sell me your busted TB engine
not under braking.... under cornering.
The braking is just bias probs! Get bias valves in there to let you set it. Fitted them, along with all barke lines in side the 205. Bias can be adjusted by the turn of a knob just to the side of the seat 
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by Adam_B
adam, im not sure how to describe it but on your corsa do you get like passive oversteer. you turn in, then almost a second later you feel the back of the car move a bit more?
The VXR feels exactly like that!!! Its a bit scarey. Im trying to put faith in it, but really need to get it on track to do it safley!!! Kinda feels like the car is trying to go round a corner a little sideways
My corsa usually lets go before it grips well 90degree corner, eh, why am i facing on-coming traffic
[Edited on 14-06-2006 by VXR]
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Daimo B
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not under braking.... under cornering.
The braking is just bias probs! Get bias valves in there to let you set it. Fitted them, along with all barke lines in side the 205. Bias can be adjusted by the turn of a knob just to the side of the seat
Reallly really don't want to spend any more money on it dude. Fix, feature with TV, sell or strip  Will be gutted when it happens, but time to let go (not yet though  )
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Fee
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who has a true track corsa that actually works
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Daimo B
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RallyCross people. Motorsport teams
People who have taken everything originally designed on the Corsa out/off?
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
I'd say Brosters (Red 1.6 on TB????) is a nippy road car. Its not really been track setup. Same as JRs, its not track setup, its just a very light shell and tuned engine (well, more than that, but you understand my point?)
IMO, putting a suspension kit, stripping the car, and tuning the engine isn't setting up up for track.
Track setup involves more suspension tweeks, cages (welded, not bolt), chassis strengthening, complete brake setups etc...
both jr and broster have weld in (half) cages. and i might be wrong, but isnt adams car 'just' a few bolt on bits and a tuned engine in a light shell?
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Daimo B
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Haven't seen JR's car, last I knew it didn't have a cage.
Adam also has 4 pots and has played aroudn with the suspension I think (not much though as its never been working long enough ) .
JR's car doesn't see daylight let alone a track. I can't comment any further as im going off that what I know, so what I know may be out of date.
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Robin
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your last comment is correct
but yeah, both jr and broster have invested in weld in half cages
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
thats exactly what its like!!!
Turn it... going fine... then whoaaa... there goes the ass
Are you sure you're not still slowing for the corner and only loading up the weight to the front outside wheel when you come off cam / back down the rev range where there's more engine braking?
Mine does it as well, moreso if I'm lifting off to slow down too late. If I carry the speed through then its less likely to snap and just sits nice.
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Stoneyginger
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
Daimo - the 205 was much more fun than the corsa...
Done two trackdays in each this year. The corsa was a lot faster in a straight line, but felt like it wanted to kill you on the corners. (Stoneyginger said it handled well ) Arse was way to waggly for me liking.
The 205 is a lot more neatral and you can be more agressive with throttle etc without going past your limits
Lets bare in mind how many times i have been out in a car on the track 
once or twice twice being with LOWELL 
[Edited on 14-06-2006 by Stoneyginger]
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