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willay

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1st Jul 06 at 14:31

Hello.

Ok, K reg Corsa LS with 20XE at the front, H&R coilovers all round, 15" wheels, decent tyres, ARB on the front removed and full interior.

my car's rear feels twitchy when coming off the power and coming round a slight bend, like a bend on a dual carrriageway.

Braking a tad on brends makes the back go oooh and just doesnt feel confident, is this a case of fiddling with the brake baisis(sp) or should i try the aftermarket rear ARB everyone goes on about?

[Edited on 17-07-2006 by willay]

Dave A

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1st Jul 06 at 14:42

its just because its an xe corsa. they dont handle. and dont touch the brakes in corners in any corsa imo.

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1st Jul 06 at 14:47

at dave

will bring it over, well go down the road and see if it handels, TBH brake bias thing could be locked/faulty if it has one that it

All the xe'd corsa ive driven feel twitchy in the same situation that you have

Dave A

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1st Jul 06 at 14:53

quote:
Originally posted by jr
at dave

whats funny

Adam_B

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1st Jul 06 at 16:24

ARBs help a bit, but what your experiencing is lift off oversteer.

There is good lift off oversteer, for example clios, 106s and saxos that are easy to control and progressive, and there is bad lift off oversteer that is hard to control and as you say, twitchy. Its little to do with the engine up front, its because corsas have a fucking shite suspension setup on the rear, theres far to much flex in the components.

Take it out on track, find the limits, learn to drive it fast, theres more to it that just burying each pedal in the carpet. That way when you go past the limit (and you will

) the likelyhood of dying in a spectacular fireball of glory is significantly reduced.

[Edited on 01-07-2006 by Adam_B]

Adam_B

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1st Jul 06 at 16:26

and like dave says, corsa + corner + brakes = bad. hmmm kay.

Dave A

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1st Jul 06 at 16:31

the only time my car hasnt done this is when I had eibach springs, the body roll was a bit poo with them being soft but I think with some decent ARB's the eibach springs could be the answer.

ainsley_brader

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1st Jul 06 at 17:05

What have you got the tyre pressures set at?
I found mine very twitchy to begin with but then checked and adjusted the tyre pressures and it was like a different car.
Since then ive dropped them a little more and im more than happy with it!

CorsAsh

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1st Jul 06 at 18:03

put another XE in the back, that should nail its arse down IMO.

willay

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1st Jul 06 at 18:04

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
and like dave says, corsa + corner + brakes = bad. hmmm kay.

I've had this opinion with pretty much any car

Thanks for everyone scomments

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1st Jul 06 at 22:03

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A

quote:
Originally posted by jr
at dave

whats funny

your first statement beeing xe'd corsa's dont handel

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1st Jul 06 at 22:16

IIRC it was a 1.2 8v to start with? if so it doesnt have a brake bias valve. i found mine to be a little twitchy but you get used to it, i can feel when its about to go so i just act accordingly.

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1st Jul 06 at 22:23

1.4 8v

Mistamist

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1st Jul 06 at 22:32

aaah right my bad, just slacken it off as much as possible, if the spring is still tight then take it off and stretch it if possible. other than that learn to drift

willay

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2nd Jul 06 at 08:18

So I do have one ?

Slacken as much as possible, I thought these were quite sensitive and naughty when you adjust them?

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2nd Jul 06 at 09:49

quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
and dont touch the brakes in corners in any corsa imo.

mines fine

alistairolsen

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2nd Jul 06 at 13:45

dont brake in a corner in any car unless you like sideways

gavin18787

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2nd Jul 06 at 17:02

you can make a little bracket to adjust the spring so it is slacker. Just need a couple of bolts and some metal

Drives supercharged Tec with torque

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2nd Jul 06 at 19:43

do you have a bias valve or the small inline ones?

VegasPhil

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2nd Jul 06 at 21:42

Surley one that old wouldn't have a bias spring?

Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold

willay

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3rd Jul 06 at 03:58

I have no idea, where do I look?

Adam

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3rd Jul 06 at 04:21

all corsa's have them afaik, it's under the car on the o/s just above the rear beam area, looks like a spring

Adam-D

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3rd Jul 06 at 07:22

my first one had one, my second one didnt my 3rd 4th and 5th had them

look on the rear axel for a rusty looking spring going between the the chasis and rear beam on the drivers side
that will hook onto a alloy block with 4 brake pipes goin into it

if its not there then you have the inline ones

dna23

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3rd Jul 06 at 07:39

When i lowered Stinga's corsa off here he didn't have a spring one he had them inline.... mine did have a spring one though.

You can see it on the left in this pic: