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Hammer
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11th Aug 06 at 09:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looks like McClaren will leave him out his first squad, basically calling an end to his England career.

Whats peoples thoughts on this? as an outsider looking in i always thought he was the most hard working player on the pitch the qualifier against Greece where he scored the free kick and ran the length and breadth of the pitch was maybe the best single performance i've ever seen from one man you need to remember hes still probably the best crosser of the ball in the world.

Bad move imo, think McClaren's doing it to show his authority, could backfire on him.
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Been needed for a long time IMO. Yes he was immense against greece but that was what 5 years ago?!
Shouldn't of played as much as he did in the world cup everytime Lennon replaced him we actually looked like we might score
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I don't think he's gave any less effort any time he's played for England though, that's my point. If he has been dropped i can see him taking it pretty bad anyway
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That means Jenas gets a place
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All he offered in the world cup was dead ball situations. He's got no pace left IMO of course
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I wouldn't call him the best crosser in the world!! Hes good but I thought Dwight Yorke in the world cup produced some crosses/corners that easily equalled him.
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quote:
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That means Jenas gets a place


Jenas is a Championship player at best. It is an insult that the usless donkey is even in the squad over far more worthy players
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quote:
Originally posted by Mad Moe
quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
That means Jenas gets a place


Jenas is a Championship player at best. It is an insult that the usless donkey is even in the squad over far more worthy players




Every time he came on for England we looked more threatening. You mustn't have been watching the right games

Yes he's young and still has a lot to learn players have to start somewhere and he's going the right way about making a name for himself
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I think it must be you who hasn't been watching the right games. Please tell me which competitive internationals Jenas has proved he is worthy of a place in the squad ahead of the likes of Nolan, Parker, Reo-Coker and SWP all of whom are far more capable players that Goldfish imo
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Reo-Coker should have been named England captain. I hope Anton gets in the squad too!
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quote:
Originally posted by --Dave--
quote:
Originally posted by Mad Moe
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Originally posted by Nismo
That means Jenas gets a place


Jenas is a Championship player at best. It is an insult that the usless donkey is even in the squad over far more worthy players




Every time he came on for England we looked more threatening. You mustn't have been watching the right games

Yes he's young and still has a lot to learn players have to start somewhere and he's going the right way about making a name for himself


I hope your getting Jenas mixed up with Lennon!!
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I think dean ashton will be in, with owen and rooney both out, i think beckham needs to be in the squad though, he is still a world class player who can change a game with one simple pass. Im not saying he should start but maybe used as a sub.
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11th Aug 06 at 13:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I am of course getting Jenas mixed up with Aaron Lennon PMSL

my bad
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and as a result I agree with everything Mad Moe has said thus far
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quote:
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I think dean ashton will be in, with owen and rooney both out, i think beckham needs to be in the squad though, he is still a world class player who can change a game with one simple pass. Im not saying he should start but maybe used as a sub.


drop rooney? do u watch football?
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who said anything about dropping rooney????

rooney is suspended (or so i thought)
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nobody said anything about dropping Rooney Ryan
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sorry miss read it rofl. (owen and rooney out) i thought u ment leave em out. apologies
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no worries matey, so is rooney suspended?
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I said it throughout the World Cup that Beckham was playing shite the young lad Lennon was first class and wanted to beat defenders and get forward

Beckham is now a one trick pony and even then that trick doesnt work 9 times out of 10

Good on McLaren for having the bottle to drop him
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team i would go for would be

Robinson

Neville
Rio
Terry
A.Cole

Lennon
Lampard
Carrick
Gerrard

Ashton
Defoe

what would you choose?
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quote:
Originally posted by mattwhite
team i would go for would be

Robinson

Neville
Rio
Terry
A.Cole

Lennon
Lampard
Carrick
Gerrard

Ashton
Defoe

what would you choose?


with Rooney out I would agree with that but a fit rooney is a real asset
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11th Aug 06 at 14:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ashton? Are you fucking insane?

Bent, Crouch, Defoe.......
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I have to agree with Jules on Ashton not sure he is quite their yet, I mean his record last season was no better than our donkey Ameobi and Ashton scored scored a majority of those goals in the Championship. Saying that it's a good opportunity for the lad to get some experiance
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think its shocking that theyve dropped beckham, if it wernt for him i doubt we woudl have won a game in germany, let alone get there imo.
he offerd duperb crossing, leadership and experience.

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