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3CorsaMeal
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21st Sep 06 at 15:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just got me thinking, what makes a performance car?
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under 8 seconds IMO, ideally under 7 and sub 20 to 100


or anything that has VTEC
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depends what performance you are interested in

0-60 and 1/4 mile times or top speed or handling
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when the sole intention of the car is speed and handling over anything thing else?

designed with the driving experience as most important brief?


rather than, design an astra for shopping and your grandparents, fit it with spec'd up engine and bodykit?
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0-100 in around 15 seconds and sub 8 seconds 0-60.
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*Gets coat*


Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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IMO i always think acceleration, top end for me dont matter as long as it does 110+

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
IMO i always think acceleration, top end for me dont matter as long as it does 110+




I agree steve, anything over this on the roads is pretty dangerous.
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everything a CTR has
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
when the sole intention of the car is speed and handling over anything thing else?

designed with the driving experience as most important brief?


rather than, design an astra for shopping and your grandparents, fit it with spec'd up engine and bodykit?


or a five foor leon

you could say it was tuned by SEAT Cupra though they did the suspension , brakes etc
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yes and a silly dash mounted gear lever that was such a good idea they kept it for the new one
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You could
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i want to fight you with my top off marc
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No Comprimises.

Something which is built from the off as an car which will handle well and go reasonably well too.

Lotus Exige is the best example i can think of.

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quote:
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i want to fight you with my top off marc


For some reason I thought that said you wanted to fight me off with your tool
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
when the sole intention of the car is speed and handling over anything thing else?

designed with the driving experience as most important brief?


rather than, design an astra for shopping and your grandparents, fit it with spec'd up engine and bodykit?


or a five foor leon

you could say it was tuned by SEAT Cupra though they did the suspension , brakes etc


i re thought that comment of mine and it doesn't work, i.e: clio V6, designed to be a small hatch/town car, yet they have made what i'd call a performance car from it
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21st Sep 06 at 15:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

also, a BMW M3/M5 is a performance car, as is an Audi S4/RS4, but they started out as a boring saloon.
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as the corrado started out as a 1.8 corsa slow model
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Sitting at work today, a guy (who blatently thinks my 106 is a pile of rubbish) - was asking me what I'm gonna get as my next car.

I found this question strange as it implied he thought my car was junk and it should be replaced.

Anyway, I said I was happy with mine, as it was quick for what it was.

He has a boggo slow 1.4 8v 206 - and said 'the 206 Gti would be far quicker than your car!'

I was like, no it wouldn't not even the 180 version. (He didn't even realise there was a difference between 138 bhp version and 180 version).

Then he said, 'Oh well, I'm gonna get a Astra Turbo (~200 bhp) next - that'll embarress yours'

Well, it depends what he wants to do with it. Round corners I'll happly cain him, and I'm sure down the 1/4 mile I'd still be quicker / close.

Of course if the 1 thing he holds onto at night, is the fact on the motorway he'll leave me behind - well who cares.

I hate the way people associate the fact that since my car has a 1.6 engine (and they've had a 1.6 8v spi once in their life in a barge), and is a 106 which most people think of the base models, it must be shit and slow.

I think for a 1.6 N/A!! my car is v.impressive.

Obviously this guy has never even seen my car move or been in the car, as he's just a person who sits in a office at work all day.

just hate the pre-judger's. who are clueless about cars.
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TBH thats what CTR owners are like, im surprised he didnt suggest he was going to get one of them
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CTR = performance
Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
CTR = lack of performance up hills
Marc
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Deep breaths Paul, deep breaths.
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Performance could be n e thing, a fecking slow car could perform well on fuel consumption.

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