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AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 10:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
right,

I might be being as thick as pig shit here but can anyone clear things up?

I think I want a MSA Non-race National B licence to compete in Hill Climbs/Sprints etc.

For this....
do i need a medical?
Do i need ARDS pass?

http://www.msauk.org
jr
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2nd Oct 06 at 10:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Would this not be the start you need

http://www.msauk.org/site/cms/contentViewArticle.asp?article=2384 ?
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 11:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
had a look on there... but just get bored after 2 lines of text
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 11:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ok, bee there, seen that.... still doesnt answer Qs above
starkmotorsport
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Adam you need a Non-Race National B licence.

You dont need a medical or ARDS (these are for circuit racing) and BARS is for stage rallying.
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
So... basically get the blue book, then fill out application...

the application reads to require doctors input though
Butler
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You will get the blue book with the license. I highly recommend you join a local car club first.
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
you will not get the blue book with the licence
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
or the starter pack/blue book i'm talking about anyway
tooolbox timmy
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you dont need a national B for hill climbing or sprinting.You need a speed A license which you can apply for over the msa's website you dont need to do a test in order to get this .Ive had one for three years and im part of longton and district motorclub .It may be easier to join a motorclub which does sprinting/hillclimbing this way you could get into there leagues etc and you also get your license and sprint applications cheaper
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 12:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
whet! I'm not doing internatinal things!
AK
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AUTO TESTS * Clubman Clubman Any National 'B' N/A
ALL TRIALS *
(excluding 4x4) Clubman Clubman Any National 'B' N/A
NAVIGATION RALLY * Clubman Any National 'B' Any National 'B' N/A
ROAD RALLY *
(including Historic) Clubman Any National 'B' Any National 'B' N/A
SAFARIS, HILL RALLIES, TIMETRIALS, TEAM RECOVERIES Clubman Clubman Off-Road or Stage Rally National 'A' (5) Off-Road or Stage Rally International
CLUBCROSS Clubman N/A N/A N/A
AUTOCROSS
(including MINICROSS) Any National 'B' Any National 'B' N/A N/A
HILLCLIMBS, SPRINTS, SANDRACES Any National 'B' (8) Any National 'B' (8) Speed or Race National 'A' (8) Speed or Race International
DRAG RACES N/A Any National 'B' Drag National 'A' Drag International
RALLYCROSS Any National 'B' Any National 'B' Stage Rally Nat 'A'
Race National 'A'
Speed National 'A' Rally Int'l, Race Int'l or Speed Int'l
STAGE RALLIES Stage Rally National 'B' (6) Stage Rally National 'B' (6) Stage Rally National 'A' (7) Rally Int'l
STAGE RALLIES
(HISTORIC) Stage Rally National 'B' Stage Rally National 'B' Stage Rally Nat 'A' or Rally Int'l Historic Rally Int'l or Rally Int'l Historic
RACE Race National 'B' Race National 'B' Race National 'A' Race Int'l
RACE HISTORIC Race National 'B' Race National 'B' Race National 'A' or Race Int'l Historic Race Int'l or Race Int'l Historic
RACE KART Kart National 'B' or Race National 'B' Kart National 'B' or Race National 'B' Kart National 'A' Kart Int'l
RACE TRUCK Race National Truck Race National Truck Race National Truck International Truck
Butler
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2nd Oct 06 at 13:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AK
you will not get the blue book with the licence

Yeah you will

Join a car club and go along to a meet, you will learn much more than you ever will online. Thats what I learnt anyway.
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 13:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


yes..... cant really do that right now though can i!
Butler
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2nd Oct 06 at 13:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
It says you need a license for road rallies, you can compete in 12 cars or closed to club events with only a club membership. Im sure it cant differ much for what you want to do.
Butler
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2nd Oct 06 at 13:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Dont be worrying about licenses yet! Find your nearest club, get in touch with someone and find out when their next meet is. Thats the only thing ou should be worrying about for now.
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 13:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
butler - no offence... but i want a non-race national B!

I understand i can join a club, and take part in their events... BUT what happens when i go to the next track..... and its not theirs! I need a Licence
Lucky B
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2nd Oct 06 at 14:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
It's best you get a non race Nat B.

From there once you've done 3 events i think it is now (used to be 8 at 3 venues) you can upgrade to a Speed Nat A if you want.

You dont need to however.

A Speed Nat A will allow you to do British Championship rounds of the Sprint & Hill Climb championships.
Lucky B
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2nd Oct 06 at 14:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Mat i take this opportunity to recommend you do Doune hill climb ASAP.
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 14:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how many dates in the championship (dont know proper name of it)?

Do you have to reg to do all of the season, or can you just do some?
Lucky B
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2nd Oct 06 at 15:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Heve a look on www.scottish-hillclimbing.co.uk on the events section.

You dont have to enter a championship to do a round of it.

[Edited on 02-10-2006 by Lucky B]
Lucky B
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2nd Oct 06 at 15:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Here's what your letting yourself in for...

Please note i had no LSD fitted to my car and was running a slightly too short ratio S1 106 Rallye box.

Fintry:

Not very good quality as they're off my digi camera...

www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0507Image0005.AVI

www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0507Image0002.AVI

Doune:

www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/Dave1.mov

www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/Dave2.mov

http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0416Image0032.AVI

http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0416Image0036.AVI

http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0416Image0038.AVI

http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0416Image0060.AVI

http://www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0416Image0061.AVI
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
none of the .AVI's work min!
jr
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i really want to have a a go at hillclimbing, but seem to be to far away from anywhere to actully do it
AK
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2nd Oct 06 at 16:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
www.106rallye.co.uk/members/Dave/2005_0507Image0005.AVI

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