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Author finished fitting the mantzel the other day and.... wow
j7 gkk
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   2nd Nov 06 at 17:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
finished fitting it tuesday and couldnt wait to test it, filled it up with antifreeze, let it warm up and make sure there wer no problems, then went out for the first drive, and wow..... what a difference in power it makes, to look at the manifold how basic they look you wouldnt think it would give you any power, but i am very impressed with it. love it when it hits just over 5k revs

only got a couple of problems really, i need to find a cav or vectra td induction pipe from the filter to the mantzel, which i cant find anywhere, ive just bodged one up till i get one, also it feels like there isnt much mid range power its got plenty bottom down and top end but from about 4k to 5k there isnt much also it feels like the rev limiter is slowing the car down. The only mods i have so far are the mantzel, pipercross cone filter, magnex decat, and magnex full system. But in the near future i hope to have a spare head that i have ported and polished and a janspeed manifold and either a remap of standard ecu or chip at nobles in chesterfield depending on costs, i have a fse but have been told not to use it
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2nd Nov 06 at 17:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
good luck with it all.

i love mine too. lots of fun.
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think they are all like that, you can only feel mine actually doing anything at 6k which is poo.
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"think they are all like that, you can only feel mine actually doing anything at 6k which is poo"

thats wht im thining of having it mapped/chipped and having the limiter raised a bit, all good fun tho
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i was about to get mine mapped but then thought, why spend that much when i can buy an xe for the same price, so thats what im doing now instead.

[Edited on 02-11-2006 by J4M13]
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im wanting to make the most of the 1.4 without going to far with it i used to have an xe corsa but the insurance was stupid thats why im sticking with the 1.4 cheap insurance and tax
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2nd Nov 06 at 18:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
got it fitted then

what you are describing is normal. forget the fse valve and get it remapped, makes a massive difference. dont forget the arp rod bolts and SBD rollers though if you want it to stay in 1 piece at 7400rpm
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yeah got it fitted after about 3 days of getting bits im looking at getting the work done after christmas, im on the save, any links to where i can get the arps and sbd rollers?
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i reved to 7200 on standard bolts and idlers for ages, was fine.....

id get it mapped tho, will transform the car.
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must make a really nice induction noise aswel
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yeah sounds really well, very different to the original sound,

im hoping to get it mapped or chipped after christmas, anyone had a map at nobles, i had the old xe set up there but cant remember how much it was
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didnt dave a use them???

can they map the standard ecu? wouldnt bother with just a chip, id get it mapped to your spec, or go for management! 1k and youll be flying
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car looks smart mate am thinkin bout gettin a dblias.well worth it then are they.
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thanx for the comment, im goin to try and clean it this weeknd and get some pics now i have the speedlines on

definately worth getting a manifold mate, the only downside was the actual fitting, was a bit of a pig but once you have your head round it and have a few pics to look at its pretty straight forward
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im mattys mate by the way but av got a black sport lowerd 60mm wit speedlines looks dead smart cant get a better alloy.
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i love mine too. so much power at just over 5k.
broster, what differences will re-mapping make?
and is it worth mapping a near standard engine? ie, with no cams, etc etc
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i've been revving to 7800rpm (ish) on a standard engine, albeit rarely dare go that high. hasnt broke yet
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im scared when i rev just above 6k that im gonna brake the lil bitch
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Yes, I have used Nobles.... lots.

cant fault them, Im very fussy when it comes to others working on my engine as I put lots of effort to make sure everything is done properly. theres not many places I would let near it! The lad there that does the mapping (darren) is very good, regarded as one of the best in the industry, he designed and set up the map for all of the Noble sports cars etc...

I wouldnt think twice about fitting arp's and metal cambelt rollers. its a choice of a few hours work and £150 or watch the engine go bang at a cost of £1000+ and weeks of work rebuilding it. I know what I would prefer.
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the arps are the top end bearings arent they? ive been looking but cant find them anywhere, ive been in contact with nobles and they say they can do my a dastek unichip and map it for around £450, but they say if im looking at modding the engine that i am best doing the work then getting it mapped
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the unichip made a 5bhp gain on my car, and made it pull loads better.
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Take your engine to Swindon Race engines and let them play with it....

Will kill any "unichip" bolt on type fitter im sure.

ARP's are a MUST at 7000+rpm on the 1.6 engines... Or it'll go pop,
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just been looking and i was mistaken bout the arp's i thought they were the top end bearings are these easy to fit? just a matter of taking off the sump and swapping the bolts over? also how do i get hod of a set of sbd rollers or a price for them?
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get SBD rollers from SBD:

www.sbdev.co.uk

best to ring them as their pricelist is difficult to use.
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if you look in the for sale section you will fond a boy selling the arp rod bolts for £38.99 plus £5 p&p which is a cheap as your going to get them

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