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JayT
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20th Mar 07 at 16:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would there feel like there is much difference between a 1.4 sport and a 1.6 sport? just been getting a few insurance quotes and got a quote on a 1.4 that is pretty good, the 1.6 was way too much! there much difference then between these two?

baring in mind i now drive a 1.2 8v lol

[Edited on 20-03-2007 by JayT]
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yes you'd notice the diff

[Edited on 20-03-2007 by K2 GTi]
JayT
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a lot though, are 1.4 sports as tunable, e.g. would you get similar gains on engine mods?
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cheaper and better to get the 1.6 mate.
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The 1.6 is MUCH better than the 1.4

I had a tuned 1.4, a standard 1.6 was a better car to drive.
JayT
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1.6 is out of the question, the insurance is just too much, teco wont even insure me untill im 21 on a 1.6 and apparently there are other companys that have the same policy now!
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i know exatly how you feel JayT, hopefully by the time the gsi is on the road i will be 22 so might be cheaper.. getting quotes of £1500 or 2k and i aint paying that, i was thinking about asking my mum to insure it and me as a 2nd driver till im a bit older. some insurance companys let 2nd drivers build up ncb's so that would be handy, i think directline do it
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wats the bhp difference between a 1.4 16v sport and a 1.6 16v?
AdZ9
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oh and also insurance groups!
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18bhp.
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6 and 10
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Jay, if you can't insure a 1.6, you can't insure a tuned 1.4
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ok then, different question now! would a standard or slightly tuned 1.4 sport keep up with a fiesta zetec s 1.6 in a straight line? the 0-60 seems similar!
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wow not bad, didnt realise the bhp was as big a difference, IG isn't to bad, i might try looking for a 1.6 sport and get rid of my 1.4 as im bored of it (plus its 5dr)
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It's not the power that's important anyway, I had 116bhp from my 1.4, Teddy had 106bhp in a 1.6, his car was quicker.
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How similar are the 1.4 and 1.6 engines in terms of physically, as I'm am thinking of doing a straight transplant. What parts would I need to upgrade?
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They are identical Dan, you need the engine and the ECU, EVERYTHING else is the same.
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You MUST be able to get insured on a 1.6 sport!! How old are ya?
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19 with 0 years no claims with tesco
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Cheers Robin, just need to find a good engine now! Also, anyone on here performed a similar operation?
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i've only ever driven a 1.4 once, just felt unfulfilling compared to the 1.6.

i insure a 1.6 at 18 with a years named driving experience and pass plus for £1100 TPFT.
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quote:
Originally posted by JayT
19 with 0 years no claims with tesco


well what is out of the question then? i'm sorry to go on about it but at 18 with 0ncb i had a 1.8 turbo! And a 1.6 sport was gonna be £900 through admiral. try ringing around.
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quote:
Originally posted by danward
Cheers Robin, just need to find a good engine now! Also, anyone on here performed a similar operation?


I did it in a week (on and off, about 2 days actual work) with Broster on here, who has also done it.
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Valid questions and all. But I wouldn't rush into upgrading because you're bored and what not.

I know I'll be stuck with my 12v for a long time BUT I am prepared to build up my no claims and move on to bigger and better things, without spending a fortune on insurance.

If you did upgrade to a 1.4 because you can afford the insurance, I'd keep it for a very long time.
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by danward
Cheers Robin, just need to find a good engine now! Also, anyone on here performed a similar operation?


I did it in a week (on and off, about 2 days actual work) with Broster on here, who has also done it.


So you litterally just replaced the 1.4 16v engine with the 1.6 16v engine, replaced the ECU, and that was it? What about the gearbox?

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