JayT
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right so the 1.4 sport 16v engines give out a total of 88bhp as standard so what would be needed to get around the 100bhp mark? i was thinking sports manifold, cat back SS exhaust system, enclosed air filter and maybe cams!
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Dave A
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cheper and easier to just get a 1.6 sport.
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Jenko_Sport
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He cant afford the insurance on a 1.6
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Dave A
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it will bw chwaper to insure a standard 1.6 than a modded 1.4 probably. will also be a lot quicker.
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JayT
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cheers jenko at least someones listening, the insurance is the main part of all this as il be paying my own way this year, i will be slowly modding the car as i earn more money, cant insure a 1.6 til im 21 so thats not going to happen!
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AuroraSport
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dave is right though, if you cant due to your age then put some money aside towards a 1.6 when you can. i think you will regret putting money into the 1.4 sorry
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topshot_2k
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inlet and and exhaust will see over 100bhp, remao and cams and 125ish should be easy
[Edited on 21-03-2007 by topshot_2k]
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Brett
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Why can't you insure at 1.6 til you're over 21?
I insured a year old saxo VTR for £800 Fully comp when I was 20.
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Dean_W
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The key to power in these engines is the inlet. Vaux fitted a shitty inlet, with around 6ft of tubing from Air filter to Throttle Body. If you get a Mantzel or one of the cheaper copies, you will be impressed, even if it is a 1.4.
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marklawton
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quote:
Originally posted by loafofbrett
Why can't you insure at 1.6 til you're over 21?
I insured a year old saxo VTR for £800 Fully comp when I was 20.
thats beacuse a vtr is group 7, a 1.4 sport is group 6 and a 1.6 sport is group 11
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Robin
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Group 10.
The modified 1.4 will be more expensive to insure than a standard 1.6
Shop around for insurance.
I regret spending money on my 1.4, I wish I'd had a 1.6 from the start.
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Brett
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quote:
Originally posted by marklawton
thats beacuse a vtr is group 7, a 1.4 sport is group 6 and a 1.6 sport is group 11
No way 
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Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I regret spending money on my 1.4, I wish I'd had a 1.6 from the start.
Although, most parts will fit either model.
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Robin
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Yeah, but the 1.6 will still drive better than an inlet/exhaust/chipped 1.4
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tom_simes
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As I said in your other thread Jay, how much is the difference in insurance?
From those mods listed up top, that will be at least £500 worth, and then as Rob says the insurance will be higher anyway as it is modified anyway.
I'm 20, with 0 NCB, and have my 1.6 insured in my name for £900, with alloys, exhaust, brakes, suspension, all audio, and other small cosmetic changes all covered like for like.
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dan_c4rsa
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i say do up the 1.4 if you want to  you might decide you odnt want a 1.6 and the speed you get is good for you!
nom nom
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Warren G
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to get 100bhp all you need is a 4 branch manifold, decat, and a full system
BUT, if i was you just get a backbox and a inlet manifold power box thing
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Scotty C
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you're are not going to get 12bhp of a manifold, de-cat and full system on a 1.4.
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JayT
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i think you would actually!
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Scotty C
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I know you wouldn't
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daz 16v
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
to get 100bhp all you need is a 4 branch manifold, decat, and a full system
i've got them on my 1.4 and got to say they make a hell of change pulls alot better from 3,000 revs
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J4M13
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i had mantzel replica, induction kit, full stainless exhaust and it came out with 111bhp on the rollers.
that was 1.4 sport.
[Edited on 21-03-2007 by J4M13]
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LukeD
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i have a 1.6 and insured it when i was 20!, wernt to bad price wise!, shop around for insurance tho matey!
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by J4M13
i had mantzel replica, induction kit, full stainless exhaust and it came out with 111bhp on the rollers.
that was 1.4 sport.
[Edited on 21-03-2007 by J4M13]
standard 1.6 would have had better torque.
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andyc1234
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if you really want to spend ur money on a 1.4 go for it. when you can afford a 1.6 pretty much all the bits you put on a 1.4 can fit a 1.6 anyway. thats what im doing to mine
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