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Goodie_06
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My head gasket is going, i can get it changed as a mate is a mechanic, but is it wise to take it to a garage to see if the head is warped?? The head was skimmed @ 56,000 miles and is now at 92,000. Any help is much apreciated
jamesvalver
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it depends how much the head was skimmed last time. get it checked to see if its warped, n if it is, hope that there is still enough meat left on the head to be skimmed before the valves and pistons meet
Colin
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check it yourself with a metal ruler.
Goodie_06
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quote:
Originally posted by jamesvalver
it depends how much the head was skimmed last time. get it checked to see if its warped, n if it is, hope that there is still enough meat left on the head to be skimmed before the valves and pistons meet


If the head is warped and it needs to be skimmed, what sort of price am i looking at?? and if it cant be skimmed will i need a new head??
Colin
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what engine??
Goodie_06
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Butler
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

From now on im always getting the head skimmed, mine didnt look warped when I did it but turned out to be. Better to be safe than sorry, only around 40 bucks.

[Edited on 23-03-2007 by Butler]
Scotty C
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get it skimmed.
Colin
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

usually when you look at the bottom of the head face there is a cast mark in the alloy, the depth of the mark is usually the max amount you can take off, not sure if that same on a vaux though. Maybe best to take it to a engineering firm & ask them if they'll check it to see if it's warped or not. & if it is get it skimmed there while you're at it.
Goodie_06
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

will skimming the head be a lot of work?? ie lots of labour??
Butler
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I took 22 thou off mine which was quite alot. Was surprised how bad it was. Take it to a garage they will advise you, as I say only about £40 or so.
Colin
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Have you boiled the engine?? i.e. ran it at with the temp gauge reating off the scale?? If not it might be ok , but you'll be best to get it checked.....before lumping it on with a new gasket cos it will just go again in no time!!
Colin
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Butler
I took 22 thou off mine which was quite alot. Was surprised how bad it was. Take it to a garage they will advise you, as I say only about £40 or so.


Ive just removed one from mine thats got a big chunk out of it, good for the bin lucky ive got a spare to go on.

[Edited on 23-03-2007 by Colin]
Goodie_06
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well on a few occasions it has gone up to 100c poped the bonnet and there has been no water in it.
Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by Goodie_06
well on a few occasions it has gone up to 100c poped the bonnet and there has been no water in it.


Get it checked then!! 100c+ is murder for an alu head!!
Goodie_06
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Okies, if i get the head skimmed and leave the orignal gasket on when its been skimmed for the journey home and then do the gasket should this be ok??
Colin
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no no no, remove the head, strip the manifolds & cams etc off, take it up with just the valve on it at the very most, get checked & skimmed then take home & refit with a new gasket & new head bolts.

You cannot reuse a gasket!!
Goodie_06
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so if i did the head gasket first and the got the head skimmed?? or what if i just got a garage to do the lot?? would i be looking at a lot there??
Colin
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

gasket goes on afet the heads been checked out & skimmed.

Getting a garage to do the lot your looking at about £500/600!!
Goodie_06
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23rd Mar 07 at 00:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ouch, how would i get the car home if i got the head skimmed with out doing the head gasket?
Colin
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you just take the cylinder head to the machine wworkshop...not the car.
Goodie_06
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oooooooo i see, stupid ass. i have no idea of how to do that so il get a mate to do it. also i think when iv lost my water i think iv lost all my coolant and anti freeze stuff. will i have to empty the system and start from fresh??
bigdan
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i thought the head had gone on mine so i got a qoute of 92 pound all in wasnt bad i suppose
Colin
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Get your mate to remove the head from the block, then take it to your nearest motor engineering place. They will check it & do the required work (with the mileage on your engine it might be worthwhile to do valve oil seals or guides aswell they will tell you) then take ot back to your mate & get him to refit with a new gasket.

Coolant - just top it up. check for any air locks while doing so.

You'll need oil & filter doing aswell at same time.
Colin
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23rd Mar 07 at 01:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by bigdan
i thought the head had gone on mine so i got a qoute of 92 pound all in wasnt bad i suppose


to do what???

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