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Aaron
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27th Apr 07 at 12:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6594613.stm
Conway563
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Seems alright but I just want to know if something will now happen to Liverpool about Mascherano as it should. How is it hes allowed to play in the champions league as well when he's already played in the UEFA Cup?

[Edited on 27-04-2007 by Branners]
Nath
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Shouldve been points.

What's £5.5million to a team with a multi millionaire owner. It's like when the FA fine players £2k for improper conduct? £2k is pennies to any Premiership footballer, not a punishment at all.
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Surely liverpool should be fined as well then?
Nath
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Yeah that is also a curious one.

Lets hope Cosmotron can shed some light.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Yeah that is also a curious one.

Lets hope Cosmotron can shed some light.



quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
No liverpool are the best team in the world and shouldnt be fined infact they should be given the 5.5 million for being the bestest team in the world




liamC
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quote:
Originally posted by Tarrantino
Surely liverpool should be fined as well then?


Exactly right. Nail on head.

Won't happen though, the dippers are one of the top 4 and the FA won't want to make them angry.
Nath
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Are the UEFA Cup and CL considered two different things, bit like the FA Cup and League Cup? If you play in the FA Cup for one team, i'm assuming you can feature in the League Cup for a different one, if transferred.
jr
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we have got 24 hours to resign tevez as well
Nath
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Whats the deal with Tevez?
jr
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apprentley his contract has been terminated as part of the fine, but that was started by skysports
Rachel H
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Shouldn't have been in the Premiership in the first place
jr
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The Premier League have said they will not be banning Tevez from playing again for West Ham this season.

They will also allow Tevez to remain registered with the club.

But ONLY if we remove the "third party ownership" from Tevez
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27th Apr 07 at 16:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Disgrace.


1997 - Middlesbrough deducted 3 points(Relegated)
Nath
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Why stop at just 'boro. So many teams have been shafted by points for lesser incidents.

One rule for the 'big' clubs, another for everyone else.

Leeds for example fielded SIX loanees when the rules state FIVE is the maximum. Their punishment? £2,000 fine, half of which was suspended. Granted they lost the game in which that happened, but what a shit punishment!!

[Edited on 27-04-2007 by Nath]
jr
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Sorry but unless everyone knows all the facts i cant see how people can say disgrace
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Because it's more or less cheating.
jr
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where did you get that from, technically not cheating, as the FA wernt even sure of there own rules

TBh i cant see how its cheating, when the FA couldnt understadn the in's and outs of the B13 rule, as knowone has ever been it this situation before

also i cant see how you lot can say just dock them points, where EVERYONE involved with the deal, has nothing to do with the club anymore
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From what I know....

Liverpool have basically bought him for 18months for a set price (have heard its from 2mil upto 12mil), after this the contract goes back to the previous owners and we have the first refusal to buy him for an already agreed price.

Put it this way, somehow we have agreed with the league the correct way to have him....it took them an extra 5wks after the tranfer window to agree with it but agree with it they did.
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i heard liverpool are in the clear as they have done it properly

but imo if they have broken rules, it should be points deducted, as that fine isnt going to trouble the owner too much, plus if they stay in the premiership they'll get more than that anyway

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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
From what I know....

Liverpool have basically bought him for 18months for a set price (have heard its from 2mil upto 12mil), after this the contract goes back to the previous owners and we have the first refusal to buy him for an already agreed price.

Put it this way, somehow we have agreed with the league the correct way to have him....it took them an extra 5wks after the tranfer window to agree with it but agree with it they did.


and i think thats where it went wrong cosmo, it took 5 weeks as the FA didnt understand there own rules, and were possibly going to agree to the deal, despite it going agaist the rule book, if you see what i mean
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quote:
Originally posted by strick206
i heard liverpool are in the clear as they have done it properly

but imo if they have broken rules, it should be points deducted, as that fine isnt going to trouble the owner too much, plus if they stay in the premiership they'll get more than that anyway




But the owner isnt the one that signed the players, it was our dodgy old chairman, who now has NOTHING to do with the club

IMO, biased as it may be, if one of my workmates fucked up and left, i wouldnt expect to get their punishment for the fuck up
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ok, i didnt know all the details

but fining the club is in effect punishing the new owner

deducting points is punishing the club
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IMo the club dont deserve to be punished when the whole board arent there, egg said that if he was in charge the deals would have never been done in that way when he joined

Brown and alldridge deserve everything IMO
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
Why stop at just 'boro. So many teams have been shafted by points for lesser incidents.

One rule for the 'big' clubs, another for everyone else.

Leeds for example fielded SIX loanees when the rules state FIVE is the maximum. Their punishment? £2,000 fine, half of which was suspended. Granted they lost the game in which that happened, but what a shit punishment!!

[Edited on 27-04-2007 by Nath]


Fuck Leeds, they will be relegated tomorrow

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