jamestech
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I was just wondering what your guys opinions are on the Ecotec engines in the Corsa B's (the X16XE in particular)
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Robin
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Great engine.
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wilson_sri
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every ecotec engine is a brilliant engine. People that say there shite usually dont have a clue about engine and have there heads up there arses and have never owned one.
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thegsi
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just because ecotech equivelents are around 5-6bhp less than others i dont understand y people slag them off
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wilson_sri
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Good example is. 2 votes yet there isnt 2 replys with reasons why. heads up arses.
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IvIarkgraham
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i dont even know what it does apart from make a noise for a couple of minutes after starting it
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Daniel_Corsa
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If you can get the air flow sorted on an ecotec engine they can usually perform as well as non ecotec's
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thegsi
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quote:
Originally posted by Daniel_Corsa
If you can get the air flow sorted on an ecotec engine they can usually perform as well as non ecotec's
yep. ie: egr blanking on x16xe's and its pretty much on the 109bhp of c16xe's
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Vaux Lad
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Great engine IMO
Evenly as massively restricted as they are.
Huge potential.
Best engine ive had so far, and ive had a few 8v's, and various states of tune(t40s etc etc)
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sam-smith
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EGR blanking? i have heard of doing that
i thought it fucked shit up? and made fuel consumption terrible
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thegsi
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quote:
Originally posted by sam-smith
EGR blanking? i have heard of doing that
i thought it fucked shit up? and made fuel consumption terrible
it doesnt 'fuck shit up' it gives the extra bhp that the EGR restricts. fuel consumption is increased yes. u have to sacrifice though dont ya? economy or power
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Vaux Lad
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My SAI and EGR is blocked completely off, and i get 35-40mpg around town.
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Rob B
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i think there wank, owned too, both smoked, both had eml syndrome too.
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Vaux Lad
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Get a late x16xe, no probs with undersized pistons etc.
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SportBoy
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ones ive had have been good but ive seen plenty of old smokers
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Rob B
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well this is about ecotech, were both ecotech, and both smoked
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sam-smith
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quote:
Originally posted by thegsi
quote:
Originally posted by sam-smith
EGR blanking? i have heard of doing that
i thought it fucked shit up? and made fuel consumption terrible
it doesnt 'fuck shit up' it gives the extra bhp that the EGR restricts. fuel consumption is increased yes. u have to sacrifice though dont ya? economy or power
aahh ok fairplay. i thought it messed everything up
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Vaux Lad
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Just leave the valves plugged in so the ecu light stays off.
Then its sound 
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Robin
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The C16XE is an ECOTEC engine anyway, people seem to forget that.
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Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
The C16XE is an ECOTEC engine anyway, people seem to forget that.
Yup, it just had less strict emissions.
Its still in the ECOTEC engine range.
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topshot_2k
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why are they a good engine? massivley underpowered compared to competition, not exactly reliable.
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Rob B
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i agree with topshot, both of mine cause me jip, and so has 2 other mates with 1.4 16vs
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Robin
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I wouldn't call them unreliable, at least, not moreso than any other engine.
On the internet, every engine is unreliable as people only say something when they've had a bad experience with one, like with buying from a mail order company, no-one ever says "yeah, they were fantastic"
They're only underpowered as they're restricted heavily, much the same as Ford's Sigma, Renaults 1.6 16v is cack, it's only the PSA one which is any good, oh, and the Honda B16, but that's obviously the case 
I think they're great, I don't know of another 1.6 engine which can give you a reliable 8500rpm, 190bhp and all on standard bottom end internals (other than Honda ones)  That to me says it's a good engine
[Edited on 25-06-2007 by Robin]
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Rob B
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reliable, how long did it last ?
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Robin
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11000 miles driven HARD all the time.
Mine lasted 5 months with no water in it FFS It only stopped working because we took the head off and didn't bother fixing it after.
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