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Danny P
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1st Nov 07 at 17:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7071530.stm

Cosmo
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I agree that we should have a winter break, especially because we have those 2-3wks at the end of the season anyway before an international game as he said.
Marc
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Think of it this way Danny, quite a few England Internationals are competing in 4 competitions alongside playing for England. This is one of the reasons the League Cup isn't a priority to some clubs as its just too much. At the end of the day footballers aren't super human and if you have 2 domestic games a week and then have internationals it takes its toll.
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Not to mention all the travelling around the globe which is just as bad as playing a game for some of them.
Danny P
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2 games a week, thats 180 minutes worth of work. Training is what, 3/4 hours maximum, and its hardly going to be competative like a match is, rest of time is spent watching videos, having rub downs etc, hardly knackering is it.

Pay me £120k a week and I'd play every single day.
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Another story here, and I agree completley:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7072685.stm
Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
2 games a week, thats 180 minutes worth of work. Training is what, 3/4 hours maximum, and its hardly going to be competative like a match is, rest of time is spent watching videos, having rub downs etc, hardly knackering is it.

Pay me £120k a week and I'd play every single day.


Training and gym sessions is a lot more than that. Playing everyday would give you a very short career....
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
2 games a week, thats 180 minutes worth of work. Training is what, 3/4 hours maximum, and its hardly going to be competative like a match is, rest of time is spent watching videos, having rub downs etc, hardly knackering is it.

Pay me £120k a week and I'd play every single day.



flights to South America, Russia, Israel, etc. etc, dealing with changes in timezone. Thats 3-4hrs a day, 4 days a week, so looking at atleast 19hrs of exercise ontop of all that travel.
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Marc and Cosmo in agreement shocker
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Marc and Cosmo in agreement shocker


I dont agree with you.
Marc
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Shut up.
Danny P
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
2 games a week, thats 180 minutes worth of work. Training is what, 3/4 hours maximum, and its hardly going to be competative like a match is, rest of time is spent watching videos, having rub downs etc, hardly knackering is it.

Pay me £120k a week and I'd play every single day.


Training and gym sessions is a lot more than that. Playing everyday would give you a very short career....


My dads a coach at Huddersfield, I know what they do all day and it much I'll tell you.

Also, not as if there flying all round the World every week either is it, we play 6 qualifiers in the Euros, not exactly back and forth very often is it, and thats only to Europe. Fair enough some players play in Europe, but if your a top althlete, then you should be able to cope with the workload.

Im also willing to bet that if clubs did have a winter break, all they would do is fly off somewhere on some Friendly tour to make the club a bit of money
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Originally posted by Danny P
My dads a coach at Huddersfield, I know what they do all day and it much I'll tell you.

Also, not as if there flying all round the World every week either is it, we play 6 qualifiers in the Euros, not exactly back and forth very often is it, and thats only to Europe. Fair enough some players play in Europe, but if your a top althlete, then you should be able to cope with the workload.

Im also willing to bet that if clubs did have a winter break, all they would do is fly off somewhere on some Friendly tour to make the club a bit of money


Huddersfield compared to international footballers

Most international players will play in a side thats in a European competition, so that means travelling a fair amount - and no matter how much of a top athlete you are your going to feel the tiredness from sitting in confined spaces travelling to these places.
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Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
My dads a coach at Huddersfield, I know what they do all day and it much I'll tell you.

Also, not as if there flying all round the World every week either is it, we play 6 qualifiers in the Euros, not exactly back and forth very often is it, and thats only to Europe. Fair enough some players play in Europe, but if your a top althlete, then you should be able to cope with the workload.

Im also willing to bet that if clubs did have a winter break, all they would do is fly off somewhere on some Friendly tour to make the club a bit of money


Huddersfield compared to international footballers

Most international players will play in a side thats in a European competition, so that means travelling a fair amount - and no matter how much of a top athlete you are your going to feel the tiredness from sitting in confined spaces travelling to these places.


Training is still the same though isn't it, no mater what team you play for

If there that tired they should make better use of there time off then, instead of running up and down in photo shoots, and adverising the latest video game, should be at home in bed with a Horlicks
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FLOL at comparing huddersfield to the likes of united etc
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Potential:

38 domestic league games
6 FA Cup games
6 Carling Cup games
11 Champions League games

So over 60 potential domestic games to play before you take in to account England friendly and qualifiers.

Someone correct me if I've got cup totals wrong.
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny P
Training is still the same though isn't it, no mater what team you play for

If there that tired they should make better use of there time off then, instead of running up and down in photo shoots, and adverising the latest video game, should be at home in bed with a Horlicks

Training the same yes, United had Wednesday off, other teams had a game to prepare for and play.

Not all footballers grace magazine photo shoots and go on the lash every night.
Cosmo
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Originally posted by Danny P
Training is still the same though isn't it, no mater what team you play for

If there that tired they should make better use of there time off then, instead of running up and down in photo shoots, and adverising the latest video game, should be at home in bed with a Horlicks


No, training certainly wont be the same

Its not tired as in 'I need a sleep tired', its their bodies that are tired. If you've done a long haul flight before (over 4-5hrs) then you'll know yourself how much it can make your body feel tired even though your doing fuck all.
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they aren't moaning about training danny huddersfield
Cosmo
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Originally posted by Danny P
quote:
Originally posted by Marc
Potential:

38 domestic league games
6 FA Cup games
6 Carling Cup games
11 Champions League games

So over 60 potential domestic games to play before you take in to account England friendly and qualifiers.

Someone correct me if I've got cup totals wrong.


60 games, so what, they only last 90 mins for crying out loud.


and? This isnt some shitty level where you can get away with not being full out for 90mins, its the highest level you can play at, and if players arent fucked at the end of games and really feeling it then they arent doing something right.
Danny P
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they aren't moaning about training danny huddersfield


There moaning about there Job, training is part of that job isn't it.....

Also, why will it not be different? Do Premier League players work harder in training? Cant see it to be fair, if anything, shitter players will have to work harder to get things right due to lack of natural abillity
strick206
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we are huddersfield mighty huddersfield.

We train the hardest as my dad is a coach
Cosmo
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Originally posted by Danny P
Also, why will it not be different? Do Premier League players work harder in training? Cant see it to be fair, if anything, shitter players will have to work harder to get things right due to lack of natural abillity


see my point above. The pace and intensity at that level just isnt what it is in the Prem - hence working harder in training.
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So your all telling me that when you go out to work 40 odd hours a week, to earn on average less in 10 years that some of these players earn in a week, you spend that money following the team around the country, spending hours to get to shit hole places, stand in the pouring rain to see them lose 3-0 and then go back and do it week after week, them saying they are tired after playing a few games of Football doesnt piss you off a little bit?
Cosmo
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Originally posted by Danny P
So your all telling me that when you go out to work 40 odd hours a week, to earn on average less in 10 years that some of these players earn in a week, you spend that money following the team around the country, spending hours to get to shit hole places, stand in the pouring rain to see them lose 3-0 and then go back and do it week after week, them saying they are tired after playing a few games of Football doesnt piss you off a little bit?


they have a natural talent I dont, hence they earn the money. Thats how the economy works - you have something thats limited and in demand then you can demand the wage you want. No need to get wound up about it.

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