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dan-sport
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27th Nov 07 at 22:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

are the 2.0l 8v a good engine to have or are they crap compaired 2 the redtop? stock 8v lump top speed?
Dione J
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Adam_B
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why go through all that hassle and fit a less powerfull engine? the only plus point is the cost really.

*Awaits 8v crew on a massive horse*
dan-sport
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mine's the 2.0l 8v but haven't really given it a run because no tax ect and its got a really bad oil leak which im fixing but just wanted to now if its any good lol
k e l
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there not bad love been thrashed
SetH
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quite a robust unit iirc.
dan-sport
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would they be any good against say a vtr?

i have been thinking of turbo-ing it but not sure if i could afford it lol
Wrighty
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27th Nov 07 at 23:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

might aswell put a 16v in for the trouble
RS SHORTIE
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quote:
Originally posted by caribic_dan
would they be any good against say a vtr?

i have been thinking of turbo-ing it but not sure if i could afford it lol


lol

An sri will keep up with a vtr upto a ton or so

[Edited on 27-11-2007 by RS SHORTIE]
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quote:
Originally posted by RS SHORTIE
quote:
Originally posted by caribic_dan
would they be any good against say a vtr?

i have been thinking of turbo-ing it but not sure if i could afford it lol


lol

An sri will keep up with a vtr upto a ton or so

[Edited on 27-11-2007 by RS SHORTIE]


An SRi? phase 1 VTR would leave it before a ton, a Phase 2 would kill it.

Even 16v SRi's would struggle.

I personally don't think there's much wrong with the 2.0 8v. Make sure you get a 130 though. That's the 20SEH iirc. And put twin webers on it
andyc1234
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mate of mine has a 2.0 8v nova and its ace
Ian W
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Conversion is exactly the same though and your getting 25bhp less

*Awaits the 8v's are more reliable crew*
dan_c4rsa
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27th Nov 07 at 23:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive had an XE and an 8V in nova's.

xe is faster and more mental.
8V is very torquey for what it is and still quite fast.

But you might as well fit the old C18NE or whatever if you have a C20NE as it pushes out the same power, weighs less and can be tuned more.
If you have a C20SEH then theyre fun too and torquey.

supter you.
dan-sport
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mines the 130bhp one
Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian_Gsi16v
Conversion is exactly the same though and your getting 25bhp less

*Awaits the 8v's are more reliable crew*


Find me a working valver for £50 if it blows
Less parts to go wrong.
More reliable (less stress, and on older engines, it helps).
Less weight.
Loads of low rev power (16v is higher revs).

If it goes bang, you go buy another engine. This is the major difference.

Most twin carbed, cammed, head worked 2.0 8v only make about 160-180bhp tops. So in tuning terms, the 16v is the better. On cost terms, the 8v is the better.

Expect similar performance to a 16v up to 100mph, XE will carry on a bit better after that.
Ian W
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
quote:
Originally posted by Ian_Gsi16v
Conversion is exactly the same though and your getting 25bhp less

*Awaits the 8v's are more reliable crew*


Find me a working valver for £50 if it blows
Less parts to go wrong.
More reliable (less stress, and on older engines, it helps).
Less weight.
Loads of low rev power (16v is higher revs).

If it goes bang, you go buy another engine. This is the major difference.

Most twin carbed, cammed, head worked 2.0 8v only make about 160-180bhp tops. So in tuning terms, the 16v is the better. On cost terms, the 8v is the better.

Expect similar performance to a 16v up to 100mph, XE will carry on a bit better after that.



The only thing I would agree on there is that the engine is cheaper to buy so the cost is cheaper on the engine but the actual conversion from the small block to big block will be the same price.

Engine isn't much lighter really, my mate had an 8v Corsa and thb I wasnt that impressed, felt like my 1600 16v used to but mayber a bit better top end
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Yeah now the conversion is the same price as an XE, but originally, XE conversions were expensive, the 8v was the popular choice.

Might have been a knackard 8v, but should definatly pull much harder than a 1.6 16v. Should still be doing the 1/4 easily in the 15's.
Ian W
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
Yeah now the conversion is the same price as an XE, but originally, XE conversions were expensive, the 8v was the popular choice.

Might have been a knackard 8v, but should definatly pull much harder than a 1.6 16v. Should still be doing the 1/4 easily in the 15's.


Im probaly just used to the XE tbh
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I disagree... mate had a 2.0l 8v in a corsa, and I know im comparing but the 106 blew it.
Ian W
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quote:
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I disagree... mate had a 2.0l 8v in a corsa, and I know im comparing but the 106 blew it.


I'd expect it would
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I don't know where the comment about staying with a 16v 2.0 came from?
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quote:
Originally posted by Eckmcmann
quote:
Originally posted by RS SHORTIE
quote:
Originally posted by caribic_dan
would they be any good against say a vtr?

i have been thinking of turbo-ing it but not sure if i could afford it lol


lol

An sri will keep up with a vtr upto a ton or so

[Edited on 27-11-2007 by RS SHORTIE]


An SRi? phase 1 VTR would leave it before a ton, a Phase 2 would kill it.

Even 16v SRi's would struggle.


What you talking about Eck, my SRi would beat Vtr's, and Vts's, I could keep up with Astra GSi's and just keep up with a tuned Cupra R.
Fro
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Josh what have you been smoking today
DJMartin07
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quote:
Originally posted by fro-dizzle
Josh what have you been smoking today


Nothing, but you have got to think my SRi was highly tuned until it went bang.
Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by DJMartin07
quote:
Originally posted by fro-dizzle
Josh what have you been smoking today


Nothing, but you have got to think my SRi was highly tuned until it went bang.

highly tuned as in standard

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