ChrisBoom
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Right, to cut a very long story short, a friend of mine was stopped in his fiesta, told to remove his exhaust (Ashley cat back system) as it was "Illegal to modify the exhaust system in any way, according to the police.
There was no noise test or anything, just told to remove it, with a ticket thing issued for the removal.
He never removed it, and they've been at him ever since, and today took the biscuit at work, they were at his car measuring his exhaust 
Its not even that loud tbh, theres people going around with much louder cars, yet they only stop one guy?
Oh, and they are defiantly harassing him, they have stopped him and searched the car for drugs ever since the exhaust thing started, even though the guy doesnt do drugs, or would ever have them in his car.
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Robin
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Easily sorted.
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JM_16v
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i got told this from traffic cops also when i had the red one, think theres some truth behind it
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Easily sorted.
True, he could just remove the exhaust, but then if they make him remove his one, they are going to have to go round the whole county and make anyone with modifed exhausts remove them?
Oh, the joys of rural police forces, fuck all to do so they harrass the young'uns 
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andy1868
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give them something bigger to worry about then tbh
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
give them something bigger to worry about then tbh
Attempted murder when they try to remove my exhaust?
.......even though i dont have a car atm
Oh, and if its illegal to modify the exhaust in any way, how come so many companies specialise in making custom exhausts etc? They must all be illegal, and committing a crime fitting the exhausts?
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MJ
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my mate always kept getting pulled over for some reason. he just had a notepad in his car and when he got pulled over took all the officers details down and the reason he got pulled, they soon stoped
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Ste L
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisBoom
Oh, and if its illegal to modify the exhaust in any way, how come so many companies specialise in making custom exhausts etc? They must all be illegal, and committing a crime fitting the exhausts?
performance exhauist wouldn't be illegal for use on the track, or show use  so they can sell them, if they was illegal 
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WU-TANG- DAN
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A dog handler i know told me as long as you dont exceed decibels allowed then its ok, sayin that he has a cherry bomb stuck on his MG
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisBoom
Oh, and if its illegal to modify the exhaust in any way, how come so many companies specialise in making custom exhausts etc? They must all be illegal, and committing a crime fitting the exhausts?
performance exhauist wouldn't be illegal for use on the track, or show use so they can sell them, if they was illegal
Ahhh, true.
I always though it was legal to change the exhaust however you liked it, so long as the emissions and noise was within limits.
Just the police being akward bastards again.
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Robin
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It'd be a logistical nightmare to enforce, they'd need to know the decibel ratings for each car from the factory.
Obviously if it's stupidly loud, then it's obvious, but even non genuine 'standard' replacements sound different, so they're technically illegal, if any 'modified' exhaust is illegal.
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16V_1600
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what a waste of resources.
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16V_1600
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They going to ban all TVRs then? They're probably more raucus than any aftermarket exhaust.
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
It'd be a logistical nightmare to enforce, they'd need to know the decibel ratings for each car from the factory.
Obviously if it's stupidly loud, then it's obvious, but even non genuine 'standard' replacements sound different, so they're technically illegal, if any 'modified' exhaust is illegal.
Its really not, its quite quiet, they haven't stopped a lad running around his micra with a straight through exhaust, or a guy with a 2.0 corsa with a straight through, both are ridiculously loud.
I think its more to do with the fact that the police dont like the guy
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Superlite Ltd.
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If insurance company is informed its totally legal providing the system has at least 1 silencer.
FACT
I'd love the police to pull me for this, seeing as i work in a garage where we do MOT tests
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
If insurance company is informed its totally legal providing the system has at least 1 silencer.
FACT
Not fact. The amount of silencers isn't relevant, it's the noise, and there's no official db limit for that, it's down to the MOT tester/police officer's discretion.
"b. a silencer in such a condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition"
http://www.ukmot.com/6-3.asp#Text_top
Even with a silencer, it could fail for being too loud if the tester thought it was.
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craig_s
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
If insurance company is informed its totally legal providing the system has at least 1 silencer.
FACT
I'd love the police to pull me for this, seeing as i work in a garage where we do MOT tests
i also thought this and had an agrument with a police man about it.they told me things can still pass on an mot but will still be illegal in the eyes of the law.but then other have told me as long as it's not too loud,not sticking out too far it and the emissions are ok theres nothing they can do 
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Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
If insurance company is informed its totally legal providing the system has at least 1 silencer.
FACT
Not fact. The amount of silencers isn't relevant, it's the noise, and there's no official db limit for that, it's down to the MOT tester/police officer's discretion.
"b. a silencer in such a condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition"
http://www.ukmot.com/6-3.asp#Text_top
Even with a silencer, it could fail for being too loud if the tester thought it was.
I got told my exhaust was borderline at my last mot, I know the fella tho, if I didn't he may of failed it
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Ben ev
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why do you wont a loud exhaust? if mine was "loud" it would drive me round the bend! it dosnt look good driven up the main drag making a racket. people dont think you look good they think there goes another one. thinks hes good but he nos hes slow
[Edited on 30-01-2008 by Ben ev]
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mav
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Guy hasn't got 'that loud an exhaust' as been stated he's getting harrased now thats all..
Why do ppl on here have to criticise everything and everybody...
[Edited on 30-01-2008 by mav]
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ShEp
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It's a joke,
I just tell them to piss off now
My local cops know its not worth the hassle charging me with a loud exhaust
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ShEp
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben ev
why do you wont a loud exhaust? if mine was "loud" it would drive me round the bend! it dosnt look good driven up the main drag making a racket. people dont think you look good they think there goes another one. thinks hes good but he nos hes slow
[Edited on 30-01-2008 by Ben ev]
Ive never heard a quiet corsa turbo yet!!
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blebo
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MOT is different from the law.
It is illegal to moddify an exhaust from standard manufacturer design. (wait till I'm finished).
This however was introduced to stop people putting a broom handle up the exhaust and bursting the baffles giving a straight through pipe
(this was popular in the 70's)
The law does not stop you from changing the exhaust to the design of another manufacturer (i.e aftermarket) providing it does not get moddified. by removing, inserting etc..
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luke85
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TO be honest I cant see him getting charged with anything, maybe give Ashley a ring and see what they say about the legalaity of their exhausts then pass that info on to the police?
[Edited on 30-01-2008 by luke85]
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ShEp
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Thats strange I just got my papers through for mine
Was tested in my Astra several months ago, they have changed the wording in the charge
I'm still pleading not guilty on the grounds that they dont have a calibrated rev counter, or a testing proceadure they just do what the 2 cops want to do at the time
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