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Author Why re houses made so "thinly" these days?
Twiggy
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13th Mar 08 at 23:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lived at my mum and dads for 20 years and was not woken by any storm/noise....

currently in a 3year old house and the other night when the storms hit i did not sleep a wink and i though the house was going to take off!

all the walls are hollow!
Kathryn W
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It's cheaper
mattk
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Cost cutting, I reeeally Dislike new houses
Twiggy
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13th Mar 08 at 23:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

like the look not sure of the "build quality!"
Cosmo
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Has a lot to do with advancement of building materials too. We no longer have to build 1ft thick walls for insulation, we can get the same with modern 2" thick insulation.
MikeE
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is it timber frame internally and facing bricks on the outside skin by any chance?
Twiggy
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think so! hollow sounding walls even walls i would have thought would be load baring are hollow
C2RL R
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i love new houses from a work point of view. would hate to live in one though.
Gregor
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quote:
Originally posted by Twiggy
think so! hollow sounding walls even walls i would have thought would be load baring are hollow


They will still be load bearing. They are hollow between the studs where the insulation is. Not keen on new builds myself !
Scotty_B
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I live in a flat that was built in 1959 and the walls are solid brick about 8inches thick.
CorsAsh
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I only have two plasterboard walls here, the rest is about an inch of plaster then solid concrete, its a fucker when it comes to putting stuff on the walls etc.
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by CorSRi_BT
I live in a flat that was built in 1959 and the walls are solid brick about 8inches thick.
Where as mine was built 2 years ago and are made of paper
MikeE
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
I only have two plasterboard walls here, the rest is about an inch of plaster then solid concrete, its a fucker when it comes to putting stuff on the walls etc.


get a set of dewalt extreme2 massonry bits trust me it will be easyer
corsa120
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yes new housess are rubbish, my mrs dads house is prob worth 3times more than my house but the build quality and thinnes of walls is shocking, i own a terraced 3-bed from the 70's and i honestly cannot hear my neighbours ever we can have music on as loud as we like etc etc give me my house anyday......

only thing new houses have going for them is they are NEW so when people turn up like relatives/work friends etc etc from the outside they say ooh you live in a nice house, but fact is they are rubbish.

me mrs mum and dads front and back door have suffered because the house is built from such poor materials the frames of the doors are cracking severely because there is just nothing to support/fix them to properly....


pffft building regulations are a joke new house are made of paper how can this be safe

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mattk
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they are as safe and fire resistant as a brik house, its the workman ship I have problrms with, Ive worked on them as im sure most tradesmen on here have,

The pay on new build sites is shocking, therfore you have to work twice as quick and cut twice as many corners to make the same money as your mate that is working for the council doing piss easy breakdown work
Phi
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tv and the metal thing that goes inthe wall fel on my head, my curtains dont stay up and my shelf fell down.... shit plaster board!
Phi
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if you look through one the holes you can see the breeze block through the thin plaster board. (sp)
Phi
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_phi
tv and the metal thing that goes inthe wall fel on my head, my curtains dont stay up and my shelf fell down.... shit plaster board/new houses!


i miss my old house!
John
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That means the things haven't been put up properly, nothing to do with a new house.
MikeE
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_phi
if you look through one the holes you can see the breeze block through the thin plaster board. (sp)



the walls are whats called dot and dab construction and to fix anything to the walls you got to do it properly thats why your things are falling down
Phi
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quote:
Originally posted by John
That means the things haven't been put up properly, nothing to do with a new house.


Well of course they have been put up properly, we have to use them speical screws, my blind has stayed up for a while now..but as you put them screw things in , it cracks and splits the walls, even by hand screwing them in properly/slowly


its rubbish! plus my room is boiling in the summer!
Phi
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ile get some pics to show yah...
John
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If they fell down they weren't put up properly, no maybe about it.
corsa120
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come on john face it new houses/materials are rubbish its all cost cutting and labour time, like i said previously my mrs dads house must be worth 350k the walls are utterly crap im surprised its still standing

there is not a single concrete wall in my mrs's dads house bar the main outer structure of the house, every internal wall is plasterboard shite
Gregor
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Phi they will be plasterboard fixings or toggles that you are using to fix to the plasterboard.

They are ok for a couple of shelfs fitted , but for the likes of a tv and bracket they will never hold ! Best way of doing it is cutting out a section of plasterboard and fixing a timber behind it then re-fixing the plasterboard. A lot of work you may think , but worth it in the long run.

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