Matt H
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But with a sort of Pro's & Cons type content?
Just thinking ahead for my car & whats going to go in it. There's plenty of toys to go for, but how neccesary are they? What benefits they give? & what are the cons?
Eg
Removing fuel tank & replacing with alloy tank
Pro's - Weight saving
Cons - Weight distribution, they are mounted higher etc
Or pros/cons of removing/fitting front ARB
Im sure people like Mr Broster or Mr Kindness could have a lot of input 
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jr
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good idea matt, just requires a bit of effort doing it, also not all the same pros and and cons relate to diffrent cars
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Colin
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Some sort of guide to terms used & names given to things, explanation of stuff like over steer, understeer etc etc would be good to maintain for people with little knowledge but an intrest like myself! 
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jr
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good idea on that colin  will look into that asap, as thats easier to do, and generic
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Colin
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Caster, Camber, Toe blah blah, expressions used when explaining setup..................stuff newbs might not get & might find surfacing a bit.
Quick insight into will keep the wheels from falling off & kind of give a means of refference.
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tom_simes
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Useful picture then? This is most of my dissertation
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Colin
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Could just work like tutorials on CS. If anyone has anything to add then send it to Admin to be accepted.
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jr
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yeah certianly, i'll speak to Ian, but start writing one tommrow anyway
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Robin
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I think Ian was planning a Wiki?
You could have a "car setup" wiki and a "how to tackle this track" wiki too, so you know when to turn in etc...
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AK
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everyone has a different approach to tracks.... and to an extent car setups (granted ballpark figures help)
No1 on the list should read....
DECENT suspension - 300 coilovers are not good!!! 
There are a lot of things that i would do differently, but as always like everything in life.... its mostly down to budget.
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jr
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at the coilover bit
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Colin
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I dunno much about tracks, cars or how the internet works so im not going to pretend I do, just a basis of an idea though im sure its been thought of already, and you guys will build on & make something superb. An idiots guide 
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Robin
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Yeah, I know that Adam, but a corner by corner track 'guide' would be cool all the same, one of our customers has one, it's awesome, makes a great read
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MGM
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corner by corner would be great, but even a guide to how each track works would be brilliant. where you go to check in facilities and the like. I've done enough now to know that each is different and until you know where you're going and what you're doing it can turn into chaos pretty quickly
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tom_simes
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
DECENT suspension - 300 coilovers are not good!!!
Would you call these any good Adam?
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=79029
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by MGM
corner by corner would be great, but even a guide to how each track works would be brilliant. where you go to check in facilities and the like. I've done enough now to know that each is different and until you know where you're going and what you're doing it can turn into chaos pretty quickly
Good shout.
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AK
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Like the Dunlop circuit guides.....
I have Donny National at home..... I suppose it does give you hints on braking points, turn in points etc..... can be usefull once your at a decent enough level to know where/what/when etc.
We had a look at them after our wee testday at donnington. Fee and I had very different lines through craners. I, ofcourse, said mine was correct but they infact were bascially both of the recommened lines.
Reading up is all fair and well, but going out with an istructor will help about 500% more
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Paul_J
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yeh perhaps the wiki guides for tracks need to be aimed at type of car / made clear what car it was done for.
like a FWD car will probably take a slightly different line or driving style than a RWD car on a track.
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MGM
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quote:
Originally posted by tom_simes
quote:
Originally posted by AK
DECENT suspension - 300 coilovers are not good!!!
Would you call these any good Adam?
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=79029
the type of coil-over is only half of it, they must be setup properly to get full benefit.
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by tom_simes
quote:
Originally posted by AK
DECENT suspension - 300 coilovers are not good!!!
Would you call these any good Adam?
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=79029
look decent enough, but never tried them.
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Ian
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I would love a Wiki for CS and WR.
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Paul_J
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The only problem with a wiki is that it is maintained by users... this can be good in some ways, but bad in others...
Has it's pro's and con's... but at what point is a wiki fact, or opinion?
for example, someone's opinion that one setup is better than another or one track guide is better than another person's
Where as people believe wiki's to be like an encyclopedia...
... but then if you only let regulated people post wikis or only what is led to be believed fact added, then who's to say they or that is correct and someone else is wrong.
It's a good idea, something I said to jr a while ago, would be good - i.e. have a whole load of info, potentially away from the actual forum structure and more on a website basis.
So people can look up detail on any track etc.
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Paul_J
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and often fact can be wrong - i.e. written down on paper officially is not true or not applicable.
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Ian
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It wouldn't be anything more than opinion if one person wrote it. At least if its a Wiki it can be corrected and added to without much administrative overhead. The current CS Tutorials and FAQ section is a nightmare - very dated because editing it a one-man job.
Organic is the answer. The other issues like accuracy and judgement you would need to keep a handle on but these are secondary to how useful the entire arrangement is.
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Paul_J
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You ever used Wikipedia?
I've changed things in the past and then other people have changed them back. Now who's to say I was wrong?
As it was I was drunkenly trying to claim I was the inventor of Toast, but still
Will be interesting to see how it goes, but definately a cool idea.
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