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nova_gteuk
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19th Aug 08 at 14:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=18554


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'It seems that Labour's unpopular plans for a national road pricing scheme are alive and well. They are determined to press ahead with their untried and untested spy-in-the-sky national project even though it looks like an IT disaster waiting to happen. Ruth Kelly should start listening to drivers and scrap these pilots for a national road pricing scheme that is unnecessary and unwanted.'



Wont be sticking any black boxes in my car let me tell you

[Edited on 19-08-2008 by Ian]
Daimo B
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19th Aug 08 at 14:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bit behined.

This has been "discussion" for about 3+ years now.....
Ellis
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19th Aug 08 at 14:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They can GTF i'd rather just pay the set amounts than them knowing my every move...
nova_gteuk
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19th Aug 08 at 14:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes but theyre actually going ahead with it.

It was just a discussion before.
Baskey
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I like this idea, me and my misses run 5 vehicals between us. I hate having to pay full tax on 5 when we can only possible use 2 at one time

[Edited on 19-08-2008 by Baskey]
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quote:
Originally posted by Baskey
I like this idea, me and my misses run 5 vehicals between us. I hate having to pay full tax on 5 when we can only possible use 2 at one time

[Edited on 19-08-2008 by Baskey]


You make up around 10% of the population its not that great for the other 90% of us though.
Baskey
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I do alot of miles though so i recon il still get hammered, was just a nice thought

[Edited on 19-08-2008 by Baskey]
Hamish
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19th Aug 08 at 14:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
Yes but theyre actually going ahead with it.

It was just a discussion before.

please tell me how the government are going to enforce this
Ian
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19th Aug 08 at 14:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm all for it.

Astra I'm buying is 228g/km, threshold is 225 so thats £400 for that. Freelander is reasonable as I use that the most at 200 quid but the Corsa and Disco are £185 each for 1000 miles pa between them. Daft.
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quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
please tell me how the government are going to enforce this
Put it on fuel would be the obvious answer.
Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
please tell me how the government are going to enforce this
Put it on fuel would be the obvious answer.

no what i mena is how are they going to enforce putting a black box in ever car in the UK. It will be a logisitical and IT nightmare. I cant seeing it happening
Colin
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19th Aug 08 at 15:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If this ever gets implemented im leaving the country!!
Scotty_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
please tell me how the government are going to enforce this
Put it on fuel would be the obvious answer.

no what i mena is how are they going to enforce putting a black box in ever car in the UK. It will be a logisitical and IT nightmare. I cant seeing it happening


New cars.

They'll get you eventually even if it takes 10-15yrs.
Hamish
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19th Aug 08 at 15:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but does the government not realise this is just going to encourage the average joe bloggs to keep buying second hand old cars
smcGSI16V
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Put it on fuel would be the obvious answer.


Problem with that is there is already too much tax being paid on fuel at the moment, unless they scrap all tax being paid on fuel at present and start again with a new pay as you drive tax added to the fuel.
Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by CorSRi_BT
quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by Hamish
please tell me how the government are going to enforce this
Put it on fuel would be the obvious answer.

no what i mena is how are they going to enforce putting a black box in ever car in the UK. It will be a logisitical and IT nightmare. I cant seeing it happening


New cars.

They'll get you eventually even if it takes 10-15yrs.


no doubt there'll be a black market involving the disposale of these ''black boxes'' and other electrics related to it.

where theres easy money, theres a crook.
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
If this ever gets implemented im leaving the country!!


im joining you! This country is becoming a joke!
stu_c
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Quadz
quote:
Originally posted by Colin
If this ever gets implemented im leaving the country!!


im joining you! This country is becoming a joke!


me 2 fuck that if they are puttin a box on my dash!!!
ed
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I like it how one of the main concerns people have over this is the possibility for speed to be monitored remotely; but no one on here has ever gone over the speed ever in their life, and if they ever met anyone who has, they would go vigilante style on their ass...
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
They can GTF i'd rather just pay the set amounts than them knowing my every move...
'They' already know your every move. For instance, if you drive into London 'they' check your numberplate and then do a background check on the vehicle and driver details. This isn't for motoring reasons, it's for terrorism and other crime.
nova_gteuk
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I'd say its more to do with the goverment tracking and knowing your every movemnt.

Before long this country will be like Tibet.
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19th Aug 08 at 16:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I doubt that.

Saying that, the Labour party aren't going to be around for long enough to get this to happen and I believe that the Conservative party are against this proposal.
Graham88
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19th Aug 08 at 16:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If they could track speed I wonder how many people would go out and try and set the first top speed.

Load of bollocks, country would be in uproar over it.
Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
If they could track speed I wonder how many people would go out and try and set the first top speed..
yeah you'd have a record website.

fastest goverment recorded speed in a corsa b 1.0 12v etc
mwg
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I knew before I opened this thread that people would be saying they are leaving the country if this happens you wont actually though will you

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