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dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 15:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone know of any places that would do these? Spoke to my local engineering place and they said that they could basically take a skim off the top of the piston...is that what they would all do and if so how much of a skim would need to be taken? Helllllllllp
Cossie
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20th Aug 08 at 15:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

wiseco does http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/wisecopistons_vauxhall.html

but wish find someone cheaper !
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 15:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that price is pretty good really.
They based in america then as its in dollars? have you every bought anything from them?
Cossie
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20th Aug 08 at 15:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no but thinking of getting a x16xe turbo too but found out at moment i am short of £££
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 15:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they seem a good price. Any idea what compression ratio to go for
Dean_W
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20th Aug 08 at 15:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

£3.5K to do properly last time i priced it up
Cossie
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20th Aug 08 at 15:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i was planing 1.8 route using x1.8xe1/z18xe crank
Dean_W
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20th Aug 08 at 15:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

When i priced it up, it was for it to be done properly with low comp pistons, proper management etc. The management was a fair lump of it. Think that was over 1K with mapping.
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 15:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well all I need is pistons and rods- I have got everything else
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 15:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im having standard management, well a remap.

if coutenay and regal can do it then so can I

Not going or mega power anyway
Dean_W
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20th Aug 08 at 15:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah i read about that. Has 2 maps, one for on boost and a 5th injector or sumat.
Cossie
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20th Aug 08 at 15:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2222312/4
Cossie
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He got manifold from mvaux brazil and i m sure he got dta ecu
dean101287
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it should run without a map I would of thought as the car i got the engine out of had a standard ecu. I cant see there being a reason why it doesnt run on a standard ecu. It will just run alot better with a map and a million times better with propper management
Cossie
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1qhEPnoH8&feature=related

I know the mechanic how done it. i really do not like that inlet manifold and had to move water header tank
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 16:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

he could have just got a dbilas or mantzel inlet
Cossie
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20th Aug 08 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i got a mantzel copy but think a lexmaul one would be nice and better for turbo application but don't know how boost pipe will pass for the throttle !!!
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 16:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the engine I got has a standard inlet on it. Pipes look a bit gash tho. id stick with the mantzel copy
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I wouldn't even entertain the idea of running on the standard management, especially if I was spending money on forged pistons, as soon as the engine comes on boost, the fuelling will be all over the place as the ECU doesn't have the ability to 'see' positive pressure.

I also wouldn't be using a mantzel copy inlet as they're not pressure tested like the genuine article and I'd put my money on it splitting with any sort of boost through it, even Lexmaul ones aren't any good as there's a core plug at one end which will just pop out.

Piston wise, remember that you're likely to get stung with import duty on those when they land in the UK, so you'd be better getting them from a UK based supplier, which also makes your life easier if you have an issue with the delivery or whatever. A set of pistons for that engine is £499 from a set in any compression ratio you like, which I reckon would work out cheaper than importing one set from the States.
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20th Aug 08 at 16:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My only problem I think is the a/c I really do not want to remove the a/c fear that turbo cannot fit due to compressor
was thinking of a vxr turbo z16let as manifold with turbo is set to the left of the engine cause of a/c and also you can use rods pistons form it !!
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 16:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I agree with you with standard managment but I will be fitting the engine and then having to use the car for a short while beofre I can get a remap. As long as the car runs and I am able to get to work and get to the place for a remap then that will be fine. It wont be running that high boost anyway. Its only a small turbo

That sound OK robin. your the man in the know
Dan Lewis
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20th Aug 08 at 16:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats bad isnt it running it on standard management for a while as the fueling is going to be all over the place, if it was me i'd save a while longer so it could be done in one go.
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 16:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

to get it done in one go I would need to do it outside coutenay. Thats where the remap will be getting done.
Cossie
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I will assure you that manzel copy I have is made of aluminium channel and thick which will not break on boost only problem it has is the vacuum pipe thread for master cycl bad design imo got it form ebay btw!!yeah lexmaul got the core plug (if it) pops out can put a thread in hole and tap it
dean101287
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20th Aug 08 at 16:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well iv allready got a dbilas inlet. Engine is going to be rebuilt soon then it will be fitted on standard management then I will get a remap.

Anymore links to pistons anyone?

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