BigSte
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Right, just finishing the electrics in my kitchen. Last thing I need to sort is the cooker/oven.
From advice in the instruction manual I have bought a 20Amp double pole switch......I obviously need power into the switch then the wire coming back out into the oven.
My question is where do I get the supply from? Can I just spur off an existing plug or do I need to include it in the downstairs ring rather than just spurring off?
Any help would be much appreciated
Steve
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AndyKent
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In my house, and houses where we refurb kitchens, we spec a new cooker circuit with individual MCB. That then feeds to a cooker switch as you say, then feeds to oven.
Out of interest, are you a qualified sparky?
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BigSte
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No, father-in-law renovates properties so he know's electrics quite well - he's doing it.
From what I've read on the internet it looks like it needs it's own supply direct from the main circuit board.
Instruction manual here although it doesn't say a great deal!
http://files.baumatic.com/usermanuals-uk/b721bl-a_271206.pdf
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C2RL R
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do you have a spare way in your consumer unit? you have a double oven that could potentially draw 18amps so you need to put it on its own mcb. you need to install your double pole switch above the worktop surface in the vacinity of the oven. fit a 20 amp mcb in your consumer unit and run a 4mm T+E from there to the switch. could be a big job that you should maybe have done before you finished your kitchen off.
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C2RL R
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sorry just re-read your first post. thought you said you'd finished your kitchen apart from this.
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BigSte
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No....kitchen is down to bare brick at the minute, being plastered shortly.
Sorry mate but don't understand some of what you said (not that tech minded :lol
What is MCB? .
also you say to fit a 20 amp mcb in consumer unit - what's the consumer unit?
Sorry if these questions seem daft, just wanting to get my head around what needs doing!
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C2RL R
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What kind of fuse box (consumer unit) do you have firstly? we'll go from there!
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Russ
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basically you need a seperate wire from your fuse box dedicated you your oven if its a double oven or you have an electric hob. Ryder will explain it technically lol
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BigSte
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fuse box - errrrm not sure.
It is a box with 3 switches, one dows downstairs loom, one does upstair and one does lights....... I can photograph tonight.
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C2RL R
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yeah get some pics up then i can see what we are dealing with. i can give you allot better detail if you do. hopefully you have a spare way in that box. then you can fit another breaker (MCB) for your cooker circuit.
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BigSte
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okey dokey......thanks for your help.
Will post up pics tonight!
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C2RL R
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ok mate. i'm going to the pub tonight but i'll check here in the morning. russ has summed it up basically above but i'll beable to give you step by step instructions once i've seen what consumer unit you have!
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BigSte
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I'm finishin the plumbing in the kitchen so likely to be late when I get round to doin the pics! Speak 2moro
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BigSte
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Pics mate:
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Russ
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there you go mate, where you have the 3 blanks, fit a 20a (check with c2rl) and run a wire directly from there (you'll need to take fron cover off - and turn mains off  ) to cooker switch, then connect your oven/hob to it.
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BigSte
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nice one! Only thing worrying me now is how the hell do you turn the mains off!
Them things in the circuit board then that you can see (one is 5a, one 16a and one 32a) - what are they called and where do you get them?
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cunningham
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bnq and what not would it not be a circuit breaker switch of some sort
just flick the big mains switch off
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Russ
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to turns the mains off is a bit complicated, the big switch saying
MAINS SWITCH is probably a good starting point though 
they are called MCB's - Circuit Breakers, you'll need a 20amp. once you turn power off and take cover off, all will become clear
[Edited on 01-10-2008 by Russ]
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All these questions are sending alarm bells off in my head. Be careful! If you don't know what you're doing pay a sparky to come and finish the job off, you can route some cable through and fit the outlet to the wall to save some time and money...
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C2RL R
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Dude ignore the alarm bells. Just had a drunken flick through and i'll answers your q's tomorra. You dont need to be a qualified sparky if you have good instructions. Thats what were here for!
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C2RL R
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firstly you need to find a supplier of mem circuit breakers. i'm just waiting on a call to confirm it but i'm pretty sure mem are now owned by eaton. that doesn't mean that eaton CB's will fit though unfortunately.
[Edited on 02-10-2008 by C2RL R]
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C2RL R
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quote:
Originally posted by Russ
to turns the mains off is a bit complicated, the big switch saying
MAINS SWITCH is probably a good starting point though
they are called MCB's - Circuit Breakers, you'll need a 20amp. once you turn power off and take cover off, all will become clear
[Edited on 01-10-2008 by Russ]
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C2RL R
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jesus christ! just had word from a supplier and a 20amp breaker for that board is £50! they are 19 years old now and are no longer in production. that basically means people can charge whatever the hell they want! if you have the spare cash atm i'd seriously consider changing that entire consumer unit. at least then it will be a current model and have rcd protection. no way would i spend £50 on a breaker for a 19 year old CU!
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Russ
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is it obvious i'm not an electrician c2rl
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C2RL R
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yeah a little but its also obvious you are sarcastic as fuck! i'm still laughing at what you wrote above!
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