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mattk

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23rd Oct 08 at 22:08

I only have PS CS2 and I cant seem to open Nikons .NEF RAW files with it

does shooting RAW give much advantage apart from being able to produce 1 shot HDR`s

cant help but feeling im missing out on summat

John

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23rd Oct 08 at 22:14

I don't very often because of the processing involved, you HAVE to process raw and I just don't want to spend the time.

Using it to produce a 1 shot HDR isn't really as good as taking the pictures.

The only reason you can do it is you can get away with moving the exposure up and down a stop better than you can with jpeg.

Mike

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23rd Oct 08 at 22:17

I usually shoot raw unless I know I'm gonna be taking loads, my memory card'll only hold about 92 raws

Graham88

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24th Oct 08 at 01:26

CBA

AndyKent

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24th Oct 08 at 07:49

ALWAYS shoot RAW unless I'm likely to run out of space on the cards I carry.

Whats the point in spending a fortune on a decent camera and lenses just to throw half the detail out.

Whittie

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24th Oct 08 at 09:32

Every picture.

Adam_B

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24th Oct 08 at 12:40

We have to shoot RAW for everything for Uni.

Doug

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24th Oct 08 at 12:48

Always RAW, Always Manual*

*Ok not always manual, normally aperture priority

[Edited on 24-10-2008 by Doug]

richard_cooper

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24th Oct 08 at 16:47

Not much

Only as rally photography means alot of photos, and on an event i take up to 1,000 images.

When not shooting motorsport, then yes i always shoot RAW

flybikeslee

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24th Oct 08 at 16:52

spoke about this the other day in uni, ive never used it but will try in the future

Graham88

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24th Oct 08 at 20:02

What's the advantages? Can we try and keep it in fairly easy terms please

Mike

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24th Oct 08 at 20:28

It stores a lot of information that a jpeg will ignore, ie. if a sky looks blown in a RAW file, you lower the exposure and the detail in the sky will show. If you're shooting something quickly and unexpected then later realise that it's under or over exposed, it should be able to be recovered quite well

Graham88

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24th Oct 08 at 20:52

Might give it a go, cheers

Whittie

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24th Oct 08 at 23:15

quote:
Originally posted by Doug
Always RAW, Always Manual*

*Ok not always manual, normally aperture priority

[Edited on 24-10-2008 by Doug]

Fag.

Always Manual, Always Raw.

Scotty_B

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25th Oct 08 at 09:08

Always RAW. It's saved my bacon more than a few times.

mattk

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25th Oct 08 at 11:39

can I get something for cs2 that will let me open .NEF files then?

Adam_B

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25th Oct 08 at 17:44

quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
What's the advantages? Can we try and keep it in fairly easy terms please

When you press the shutter on your digital camera light hits a sensor that is made up of diodes. These convert the light into binary code which the camera or computer then shows as your picture.

When you take a pic without using RAW your camera will compress the information it gets to save it as jpeg or tiff. You know how a digital picture is made up of loads of little pixels? imagine a super close up of your pic so all you can see is each individual pixel. When your camera takes that pic there is loads of information, so with Jpeg it compress' the information and will miss out like every other pixel to make the image use less space, it then looks at whats around the blanks and just kinda makes stuff up to go in there. So at the expense of quality your gaining space.

With RAW thats exactly what it is, its the RAW binary code the camera has, so at the expense of space your gaining quality. However as Mike said because your dealing with the raw code you can alter the true exposure or white balance on the computer way after you have taken the pic. You cant change everything though, things like shutter speed, ISO and Aperture are controlled by the mechanics of the camera so these are set.

We did this in the first week at uni so i appologies if any true experts spot any mistakes

Ste L

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25th Oct 08 at 17:50

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
can I get something for cs2 that will let me open .NEF files then?

not sure what you can get, but my cs2 open's NEF's

Gaz

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25th Oct 08 at 18:06

RAW FTW... End of.

Tom_Coe

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25th Oct 08 at 21:13

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
can I get something for cs2 that will let me open .NEF files then?

Adobe do a raw editor that runs alongside photoshop will try find the link for you

Tom_Coe

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25th Oct 08 at 21:24

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html?promoid=DIODR

that might be it really cant remember where i got mine from i know it was their site but not sure where on their site it was but thats what i could find under 'Camera Raw'

Adam_B

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25th Oct 08 at 21:59

Adobe Bridge?

Graham88

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26th Oct 08 at 01:37

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B

quote:
Originally posted by Graham88
What's the advantages? Can we try and keep it in fairly easy terms please

When you press the shutter on your digital camera light hits a sensor that is made up of diodes. These convert the light into binary code which the camera or computer then shows as your picture.

When you take a pic without using RAW your camera will compress the information it gets to save it as jpeg or tiff. You know how a digital picture is made up of loads of little pixels? imagine a super close up of your pic so all you can see is each individual pixel. When your camera takes that pic there is loads of information, so with Jpeg it compress' the information and will miss out like every other pixel to make the image use less space, it then looks at whats around the blanks and just kinda makes stuff up to go in there. So at the expense of quality your gaining space.

With RAW thats exactly what it is, its the RAW binary code the camera has, so at the expense of space your gaining quality. However as Mike said because your dealing with the raw code you can alter the true exposure or white balance on the computer way after you have taken the pic. You cant change everything though, things like shutter speed, ISO and Aperture are controlled by the mechanics of the camera so these are set.

We did this in the first week at uni so i appologies if any true experts spot any mistakes

I actually understood that

But after all that, if you save it as a JPEG from a RAW file does it still compress it like it does if you don't take the picture with RAW? Or is it still a good quality image?

Gaz

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26th Oct 08 at 10:24

your missing the point Graham, RAW lets you edit the picture BEFORE you save it to Jpeg, so any mistakes that you have made by forgetting to change the white balance or exposure etc can be rectified BEFORE you finally save it as an image to upload or print.

Graham88

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26th Oct 08 at 13:24

Oh ok yeah I got you there, but still, if you save it as a JPEG it will still do 'every other pixel'?

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