DaNnY_LaD
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Im on the look out now for a decent camera i can use to take pictures with...
Like some of you lot do with cars ect....
whats the best and easyest todo...?
Were can i get one from at a decent price?
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DaNnY_LaD
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anyone please?
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Cavey
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http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=475129
Have a look on there mate, if you want a digital SLR you're looking at the Nikon D40, Canon 350D or Sony A200 for entry level models.
http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk for best prices 
[Edited on 18-01-2009 by Cavey]
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DaNnY_LaD
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are the fuiji ones anygood..
im looking for that can do shots like this for around 150-200quid
[Edited on 19-01-2009 by DaNnY_LaD]
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DaNnY_LaD
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Something like this
fujifilm finepix s6500FD digital slr style camera 6MP
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fujifilm-finepix-s6500FD-digital-slr-style-camera-6MP_W0QQitemZ310116859002QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item310116859002&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
canon 300d digital slr camera
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/canon-300d-digital-slr-camera_W0QQitemZ130281373934QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item130281373934&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Fujifilm S5700 SLR type digital camera, 7.1 mpx No res'
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fujifilm-S5700-SLR-type-digital-camera-7-1-mpx-No-res_W0QQitemZ160310240455QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item160310240455&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
[Edited on 19-01-2009 by DaNnY_LaD]
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Tiger
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I'll be honest with you, start with film because the principle is the same as digital but the discipline is far greater. You can pick up a great deal with film cameras right now, film is cheap, get them scanned too and you have your digital equiv. to edit away and host online.
I learned 10X faster with 35mm than with digital.
EDIT: Try the Nikon F100 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nikon-F100-Pro-Film-Camera-Body-w-Instruction-Manual_W0QQitemZ370146022206QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item370146022206&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
[Edited on 19-01-2009 by Tiger]
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Matt L
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i would agree with tiger if your serious about getting into it by getting a film as you will learn to take better pics more frequently as will be sick of wasting film.
but i would never go for film as even if you are serious about it nowhere will really use it now so you might aswell learn on what you are going to use.
as for the fuji s6500 i had the s5600 and really liked it but moved onto the 1000d within a year as it was getting to me that i could do what i wanted with it.
out of your choices id go for the 300d
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quote:
Originally posted by DaNnY_LaD
Fujifilm S5700 SLR type digital camera, 7.1 mpx No res'
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fujifilm-S5700-SLR-type-digital-camera-7-1-mpx-No-res_W0QQitemZ160310240455QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item160310240455&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
I've got the earlier version of that ready to sell atm, it's the S5600.
Where it says 'SLR type' it's not, it's a compact but has the manual modes that you get with an slr.
For examples of pics that I've taken with it have a look at my PVS 08 pics >>>here<<<
As I said, it's up for grabs as I've moved onto an SLR. Give us a shout if you want anymore info
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Tiger
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I'm not on about learning how to take a photo though, i'm talking about learning about the discipline behind taking a photo.
Lets be honest, anyone with fingers can take a photograph. There's a billion people out there that now own a digital camera and have 1000's of photos on their PC. But there's a difference between taking a picture and the discipline behind it.
A photograph is merely a photograph, but with discipline it has a whole lot more meaning.
I dont want people to lose that.
Remember that ALL pro photographers started with film to this date, and regardless of whether you wish to become pro or not, you must have discipline.
[Edited on 19-01-2009 by Tiger]
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Matt L
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yeh i know what your saying but you can learn the same disciplines on a digital nowadays if you really want to.
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DaNnY_LaD
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Awesome cheers guys..
So out of them 3 i posted which is the best?
Mike b: how much u want for it
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Tiger
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt L
yeh i know what your saying but you can learn the same disciplines on a digital nowadays if you really want to.
Hmm, i'm not so sure.
With film, you take more time and care setting up the camera, thinking much more about what your shooting and why, thinking about composition, control, focal length, lighting, depth of field etc. Digital is much more a shoot, change position, shoot, change position etc. til you get 100 photos where maybe only 5 of them are actually any good.
Here's an example:
If you were assigned to shoot a subject using a 5 x 4 Linhof large format camera and given £200 (Almost all high end pro's, mostly landscape, shoot large format) taking into account that 5 x 4 sheet film is about £6 a sheet when you include development costs. You would take much more care and time about what you are capturing.
This is discipline, decreasing the margin of error. Regardless of what format you shoot, to develop as a photographer, you must have the original discipline else it further muddies the already murky water between a snap shot and a perfect photograph.
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DaNnY_LaD
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Cheers tiger
So out of the 3 i picked which is the one to go for..?
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John
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What the guys with the large format cameras do is take it with a digital camera first to get everything perfect before using the film.
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DaNnY_LaD
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Cheers tiger
so which one out of the 3 i posted should i get
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mattk
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dont see the point in starting with a film camera at all, anything that requires discipline to me isnt "fun" and as photography is a hobby Id rather it was fun than disciplined, not to mention the added cost
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mattk
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Canon 300d Danny, without a doubt the best out of the 3
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alan-g-w
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Tiger, you're basically saying that if you take less pictures you get better at photography quicker. Always thought practice makes perfect?
I know what you mean about taking time to set up a shot rather than just point and click, but that's down to self control - not what type of camera you're using.
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Tiger
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quote:
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.............. Always thought practice makes perfect?
Not in all cases no, people i've taught have learned quicker taking fewer shots on film than loads and loads on digital.
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Tiger
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What the guys with the large format cameras do is take it with a digital camera first to get everything perfect before using the film.
Nope, they usually use polaroid actually.
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John
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The one in the article that I was reading in a magazine used digital, polaroid proves the same thing though, they are making sure it's perfect using other means before taking one on the large format.
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Tiger
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The one in the article that I was reading in a magazine used digital, polaroid proves the same thing though, they are making sure it's perfect using other means before taking one on the large format.
Yeah, it's another form of proofing in a way. Every medium has a different rendition of shades, colours etc. Its already been proved that Digital will never have the tonal rendition of cellulose but still that arguement will continue forever.
I commonly proof with digital if I shoot film, its good for giving you an idea of lighting. I find the modelling lights on my flash heads dont give a very good idea of shadows and structure really, too much spread.
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John
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I'm not sure about that, I don't think that holds true atm and I don't know how you could prove that it never will.
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Tiger
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I'm not sure about that, I don't think that holds true atm and I don't know how you could prove that it never will.
To which bit?
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John
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Tonal range.
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