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Andrew
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My sister was involved in a 3 car pile up today. She didn't have her foot on the brake and when hit from behind has gone into someone else. The 3 day year old KA will be written off for sure..

Who is to blaim that she went into the back of the other car? Silly cow has told the Police she had her foot off the brake.

Main thing is that she is alive and not too badly hurt!
Mark330d
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

3 day year old ka? dusnt really make much sense mate?
Jay
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What happened when this happened to my brother was the car infront claimed off him, his insurance then claimed off the car behind (that hit my brother) for his car and the car infront. It was something along those lines, it went down as a non-fault...

"maybe" just maybe... she had her foot off the brake because she was about to pull away just before the impact?
Andrew
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Car is smashed up quite bad and will not be put back on the road. She only got it on Tuesday
Adam-D
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

your not meant to have your foot on the brake, your meant to have the handbrake on i think, and a car can be pushed with the handbrake on.
Andrew
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by JayM
What happened when this happened to my brother was the car infront claimed off him, his insurance then claimed off the car behind (that hit my brother) for his car and the car infront. It was something along those lines, it went down as a non-fault...

"maybe" just maybe... she had her foot off the brake because she was about to pull away just before the impact?


Indeed, ready to move off.
Mo
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so she was in the middle?

i'm assuming she's gonna be liable for the car she got pushed into, cause she didn't keep her distance from the car infront.
Jay
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
quote:
Originally posted by JayM
What happened when this happened to my brother was the car infront claimed off him, his insurance then claimed off the car behind (that hit my brother) for his car and the car infront. It was something along those lines, it went down as a non-fault...

"maybe" just maybe... she had her foot off the brake because she was about to pull away just before the impact?


Indeed, ready to move off.


Who's to argue with that...
Adam_B
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Doesnt matter if your foot is on the brake or handbrake on etc its the person who pushed them togethers fault. I have recent experience in this exact same thing unfortunatly.
Andrew
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Mo
so she was in the middle?

i'm assuming she's gonna be liable for the car she got pushed into, cause she didn't keep her distance from the car infront.


She got hit at motorway speeds. She stopped but the car behind used her car as a brake
Colin
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Doesnt matter about brakes. If your in a pile up you pay out for the car you hit.
Jay
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Doesnt matter about brakes. If your in a pile up you pay out for the car you hit.


But you then claim it off the driver that hit you
Colin
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well I didnt know about that. It would be argued that you didnt leave enough space between you / car you hit.
Andrew
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Surely the insurance company cannot argue about not leaving enough space at 70 MPH
Colin
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Typical stopping distances when in dry conditions (Source: DSA)

70mph= 21m of thinking distance and 75m of braking distance – This is equal to 96m or (315 feet) or twenty-four car lengths.

I think that can be used as a loophole against shifting responsability.
Andrew
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mixed views really. Have to see what the insurance have to say i guess.

Ben G
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

24 car lengths so if someone cuts into that space and then someone hits you from behind and you hit the car infront who just cut in, then what?

loophoes and silly laws all over the place i assume.
Ben G
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22nd Jan 09 at 22:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oh ans glad to hear shes not hurt in the death trap theycall the ka
Adam_B
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22nd Jan 09 at 23:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hello? Its not a 'view' its fact

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
Doesnt matter if your foot is on the brake or handbrake on etc its the person who pushed them togethers fault. I have recent experience in this exact same thing unfortunatly.
Mo
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22nd Jan 09 at 23:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Colin
Typical stopping distances when in dry conditions (Source: DSA)

70mph= 21m of thinking distance and 75m of braking distance – This is equal to 96m or (315 feet) or twenty-four car lengths.

I think that can be used as a loophole against shifting responsability.


thats the distance u need to keep if ur driving. don't think thats the distance if ur stood in motorway traffic
daymoon
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22nd Jan 09 at 23:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Mo


thats the distance u need to keep if ur driving. don't think thats the distance if ur stood in motorway traffic



i thought she wasnt moving... was stationary.. so for all i know, she could have been 1cm away from another car...
Jay
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22nd Jan 09 at 23:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

At first I thought she wasnt moving, but a few posts up Andrew says shes doing 70mph
Colin
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22nd Jan 09 at 23:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Feck knows.

The insurance will take everything into account & whoevers responsible will pay
Mo
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22nd Jan 09 at 23:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
quote:
Originally posted by Mo
so she was in the middle?

i'm assuming she's gonna be liable for the car she got pushed into, cause she didn't keep her distance from the car infront.


She got hit at motorway speeds. She stopped but the car behind used her car as a brake
pow
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23rd Jan 09 at 08:40   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Not her fault, shes stopped with the car secured wasn't she (handbrake up, foot off the brake).

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