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P1CK4D

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1st Apr 09 at 23:55

I see alot people using Corsa's or Nova's as Track day cars and then people comment on how shocking their handling is.

Opinions and discuss. Pre 2000 Vauxhalls.

Adam_B

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1st Apr 09 at 23:55

VX220 2.2.

P1CK4D

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2nd Apr 09 at 00:00

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
VX220 2.2.

And what year was that? Pre 2000 by any chance?

Gareth F

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2nd Apr 09 at 00:01

Isnt it down to bad chasis design?
Theres alot of things you can improve on, corsas and novas are used as they are cheap and light. Can also do a decent conversion for cheap too

[Edited on 02-04-2009 by munk3yrac3r]

Adam_B

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2nd Apr 09 at 00:02

bollocks, i thought it was

no its summer 2000, meh

Suppose its going to be something like Mk2 Astra GTE then, Vauxhall dont tend to do good handling in the sense of 205 gtis and such things.

P1CK4D

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2nd Apr 09 at 00:03

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
bollocks, i thought it was no its summer 2000, meh

Fuck man

First post and you cocked up. Go to bed

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2nd Apr 09 at 00:04

quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
bollocks, i thought it was no its summer 2000, meh

Fuck man First post and you cocked up. Go to bed

Adam_B

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2nd Apr 09 at 00:06

chrex

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2nd Apr 09 at 07:14

Isn't the Cav GSi 4x4 a good car to take to the bends? Im assuming it doesnt matter if it's modified?

DizzyRebel

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2nd Apr 09 at 07:26

Think he means out the box. Astra Mk1 wasnt a bad handling car but anything after that has always left much to be desired. As with most modern day cars they are all designed with understeer to make them 'safe' but its nothing some suspension tweaks cant sort and turn a bad handling car into a track tool.

crazybrightman

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2nd Apr 09 at 07:58

out of the box no early vaux's were that great, maybe the old gte?
of the newer ones the corsa vxr is a hoot on track nice and balanced no safety undsteer crap you get designed into cars these days.

Daimo B

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2nd Apr 09 at 09:23

cavalier

As it was the basis for the BTCC, so has to be the best chassis, or VX would ahve kept using the Astra....

Actually, im going to say one of those Chevett jobbies witht eh 1.3 twin cam jobbie in them.

Baskey

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2nd Apr 09 at 09:31

Carlton gsi has to be one of the most entertaining

P1CK4D

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2nd Apr 09 at 09:44

I was going to say I would of thought the cavalier would have been best concidering it was used in the BTCC.

davcohen

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2nd Apr 09 at 09:48

Im not trying to be funny here but back in the day when calibra turbos had working 4x4 systems im sure they held the road well

I had one although it had been lowered and had 17's (not standard ok) it handled very well............. until mid bend when the 4x4 randomly decided not to work

P1CK4D

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2nd Apr 09 at 09:51

If it wasn't 4x4 though as the majority of the Vauxhalls 4x4 systems end up being useless. FWD Calibra, Cav, Mk2 + Mk3 Astra's? Im a right in thinking a longer wheelbase is usually a better set up to start with on the corners?

Eck

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:18

Lotus Carlton?

[Edited on 02-04-2009 by Eck]

Daimo B

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:23

quote:
Originally posted by Eck
Lotus Carlton?

[Edited on 02-04-2009 by Eck]

wasn't a very good handling car.

it was a straightline machine from the reviews i've read/watched.

Car just looks twitchy under cornering.

ShEp

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:25

My cav sri saloon handles better than my corsa, or vectra, or astra.

But I have owned a 1900 205 gti

[Edited on 02-04-2009 by ShEp]

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:26

You do actully know the vauxhall 4x4 system was very very clever dont you, and not nearly as poor as alot of people make out

chevette HSR and Manta 400

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:27

quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D
I was going to say I would of thought the cavalier would have been best concidering it was used in the BTCC.

well its a cav shell, and thats about it, all the turrets are diffrent let alone the actual bolt on bits

ShEp

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:30

quote:
Originally posted by jr
You do actully know the vauxhall 4x4 system was very very clever dont you, and not nearly as poor as alot of people make out

chevette HSR and Manta 400

Clever but unreliable

Adam_B

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:30

quote:
Originally posted by jr
chevette HSR and Manta 400

good shout

Lotus Carlton and Omegas were built to bully Mercs and BMs down the autobahns

[Edited on 02-04-2009 by Adam_B]

mattfiesta

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2nd Apr 09 at 10:55

quote:
Originally posted by P1CK4D

quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
VX220 2.2.

And what year was that? Pre 2000 by any chance?

misleading thread title tbf

DaveyLC

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2nd Apr 09 at 11:06

quote:
Originally posted by Baskey
Carlton gsi has to be one of the most entertaining

Carlton / Omega chassis is fooking AWESOME.. Probably one of the best vauxhall ever did.

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