corsa-jr
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whats the most bhp would would see from the x16xe engine without going down the throttle bodies route?
Also what sort of mods would you need?
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mattk
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broster and Dave A both got 200bhp I think
costs ££££ though
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BarnshaW
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they both had throttle bodies did they not?
i would imagine, cams, inlet, filter, exhaust, remap etc and you might see 130-140bhp odd? dont quote me on that
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Corsa Sport Gav
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didnt a lad called andy get well over 200bhp from his?
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mattk
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ohhh I read it as going down the throttle body route
sorry
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Corsa Sport Gav
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quote: Originally posted by mattk
ohhh I read it as going down the throttle body route
sorry
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XSIHardy
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Tbs can get like 170BHP depends how much money you have, i got quoted just over 5 grand for that kind of power out of a c16xe
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Linch
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quote: Originally posted by XSIHardy
Tbs can get like 170BHP depends how much money you have, i got quoted just over 5 grand for that kind of power out of a c16xe
Seriously 
where the throttles made from gold?
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Craig P
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quote: Originally posted by Linch
quote: Originally posted by XSIHardy
Tbs can get like 170BHP depends how much money you have, i got quoted just over 5 grand for that kind of power out of a c16xe
Seriously 
where the throttles made from gold?
Im glad you came along as i was just thinking....Linch only has TB's and he's got 150Bhp,So to make 200Bhp surely it cant cost that much.
I already have;
Lightened & Balanced Bottom End
Bored out 0.5mm with new AE Pistons
Ported & Polished Head
Mantzel Inlet
Soon to have;
Cams
Full Exhaust Incl Manifold
TB's
Raised Limiter
Also it will have things to make it Stronger like;
ARP Flywheel,Conrod,Head Stud Bolts
Uprated Engine Mounts
Fully Rebuilt Etc
How much Power will i be running?That must be near the 200 mark is it?
[Edited on 03-05-2009 by Craig P]
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Linch
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yes you will be looking around that mark what spec cams? 288's would be my choice.
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XSIHardy
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need a ported head i think ...
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Linch
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Depends, most x16xe heads will, some early heads have diffrent ports, c16xe head is a better design.
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XSIHardy
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Jenvey Taper throttle bodies
Janspeed 4-2-1 exhaust manifold
Gotech MFI Pro ECU
Decat
Exhaust system
264 degree cams
Vernier pullies
Metal cambelt idlers
ARP rod bolts
and then ported head should give 170bhp
nd cost 5250 fitted
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corsa-jr
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so how much you looking at if you wern't going with throttle bodies and just an inlet also with
Janspeed 4-2-1 exhaust manifold
Exhaust system
264 degree cams
Metal cambelt idlers
ARP rod bolts
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Craig P
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quote: Originally posted by Linch
yes you will be looking around that mark what spec cams? 288's would be my choice.
Well i dont have Pocketed Pistons (For the Time Being) So i was thinking 264's.
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corsa-jr
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quote: Originally posted by Craig P
quote: Originally posted by Linch
yes you will be looking around that mark what spec cams? 288's would be my choice.
Well i dont have Pocketed Pistons (For the Time Being) So i was thinking 264's.
vsport can do 288 cams that will run on std pistons. Give them a ring
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Craig P
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quote: Originally posted by XSIHardy
Jenvey Taper throttle bodies
Janspeed 4-2-1 exhaust manifold
Gotech MFI Pro ECU
Decat
Exhaust system
264 degree cams
Vernier pullies
Metal cambelt idlers
ARP rod bolts
and then ported head should give 170bhp
nd cost 5250 fitted
Where's that from?Thats quite Shocking really.You could have 200+ with a Turbo for less.
Im going on the Principal of fitting things your self though.
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Craig P
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quote: Originally posted by corsa-jr
quote: Originally posted by Craig P
quote: Originally posted by Linch
yes you will be looking around that mark what spec cams? 288's would be my choice.
Well i dont have Pocketed Pistons (For the Time Being) So i was thinking 264's.
vsport can do 288 cams that will run on std pistons. Give them a ring
Can they?Anymore Info on these?
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Craig P
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quote: Originally posted by corsa-jr
so how much you looking at if you wern't going with throttle bodies and just an inlet also with
Janspeed 4-2-1 exhaust manifold
Exhaust system
264 degree cams
Metal cambelt idlers
ARP rod bolts
Personally i think 130-140.And if you got the Head Ported & Polished maybe 150
Alll depends on how strong the Engine is weather its been looked after Etc.Plus people will have diffrent Opinions!
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AndyCorsaSport
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quote: Originally posted by BarnshaW
i would imagine, cams, inlet, filter, exhaust, remap etc and you might see 130-140bhp odd? dont quote me on that
Mines that spec, but with ported and polished head and lightened flywheel too, your right though, around that BHP
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philip2
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when i built my c16xe i had:
inlet, stock derestricted airbox, ported/polished head, 80mm pistons with deeper valve pockets, ashley manifold/system. few other odds n sods. not sure on power. but fair play to it, would piss off 106gti's and the like.
i worked out £3k to get:
tb's, 288 cams(pref newmans as dont rate kent or piper), sbd manifold, pocketed pistons, few other bits i think. so £5k odd is abit steep. but then again i do all my own engine building, porting etc, so save quite abit that way. roughly same as the 184bhp spec or whatever SBD had on their site anyway
and for the comment about if linch's made 150 with just tb's, 200bhp cant be that much dearer....it is. its like you could spend £2-2.5k on building a 200bhp 20xe, but might cost about 6-8k to get 250bhp. not that easy the more power you want.
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Warren G
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quote: Originally posted by XSIHardy
Jenvey Taper throttle bodies £1300
Janspeed 4-2-1 exhaust manifold £175
Gotech MFI Pro ECU £400
Decat £70
Exhaust system £230
264 degree cams £350
Vernier pullies £170
Metal cambelt idlers £70
ARP rod bolts £70
and then ported head should give 170bhp £300
nd cost 5250 fitted
plus fitting, easy be £5k
labour = ££
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broster
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a taper throttle body kit off us for a 1.6 16v would be £2750, that would see a genuine 155-160bhp.
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Linch
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quote: Originally posted by broster
a taper throttle body kit off us for a 1.6 16v would be £750, that would see a genuine 155-160bhp.
Mark your practically giving them away 
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Eck
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quote: Originally posted by Craig P
quote: Originally posted by corsa-jr
quote: Originally posted by Craig P
quote: Originally posted by Linch
yes you will be looking around that mark what spec cams? 288's would be my choice.
Well i dont have Pocketed Pistons (For the Time Being) So i was thinking 264's.
vsport can do 288 cams that will run on std pistons. Give them a ring
Can they?Anymore Info on these?

[Edited on 05-05-2009 by Eck]
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