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Carl
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17th May 09 at 14:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'm sure i've posted similar but i've recently realised the need again. Budget is max 200.
It doesn't have to be awesome, just so its better than the standard tv speakers which isn't very hard, a bit of bass etc to make it a bit more cinematic. I'll get a picture up of the room I have to work with, not much really.
Carl
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That is a 32inch tv, so as you can see not much space. on the right side it will have to be over teh door as there are wardrobes just out of shot.

Not really got anywhere for a amp as such as the dvd player is on a makeshift stool. Need some ideas.
kz
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17th May 09 at 23:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

AE Aego M

Look no further, they're awesome!
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by kz
AE Aego M

Look no further, they're awesome!


Was just about to post to get a pair of Aego M's
But yeah, brilliant speakers for the size and price (can be picked up for £100) and you can get wall brackets for them (flushed fitting from behind each satellite speaker).
It's also RCA/Phono inputs (L, R & Centre - although centre speaker is optional extra), so it should be fairly straight forward to connect if your LCD has audio outputs.




[Edited on 17-05-2009 by Dom]
Carl
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18th May 09 at 17:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nice one, cheers. Going to source some of those in black.
kz
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by kz
AE Aego M

Look no further, they're awesome!


Was just about to post to get a pair of Aego M's


Think it was someone on here that recommended them to me last year... what goes around comes around
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by kz
quote:
Originally posted by Dom
quote:
Originally posted by kz
AE Aego M

Look no further, they're awesome!


Was just about to post to get a pair of Aego M's


Think it was someone on here that recommended them to me last year... what goes around comes around


lol
They are good speakers though, room mate during second year uni (2 years ago) got a set and i was pretty impressed with them considering the size. The sub can be a little flabby though, but for the price i don't think you'll get anything better.

I know someone that got two sets so he could run a 5 channel setup (not 5.1 as there isn't a seperate LFE channel) and it worked really really well, a lot better than that Logitech 5.1 system that everyone bangs on about (which is sounds horrific).
Carl
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21st May 09 at 16:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They have come today. Need a scart to audio cable though to get them working . v
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
They have come today. Need a scart to audio cable though to get them working . v


You don't have phono outs from the lcd/plasma?
Carl
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21st May 09 at 20:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I can't get it to work and I found this on the net which is the same panel but bigger, (mines the 32pg6000 Plasma)

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-televisions/869440-having-trouble-connecting-aego-m-speakers-lg42pg6000.html

The phono outs are the red white and yellow ones aren't they? if so I have them and i've tried but can't get them working. The setup guide that came with the speakers is laughable too.
Carl
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21st May 09 at 20:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Theback panel info i have out of the manual is;

MDMI input
RGB/DVI Audio input
Optical digital audio out
componant input
RGB input
RS-232c in
Euro scart socket
antenna input
PCMCIA
S-VideoInput
USB input
Service only port

I'm piss poor with this kind of stuff unless plug and play.

Also I got a rca scart converter box thing off the wiii that fitted in the scart and i hooked up the red and white wire but still no luck. When i turned tv up and amp thing on i could here it really slightly through the satellite speakers.
kz
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21st May 09 at 23:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

btw dude just to let you know all I do is plug mine into the headphone socket
Carl
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It hasn't got a headphone socket mine. I always seem to end up with awkward things.

Going to source a scart to phono out, think one i have must be an In. If that doesn't work i'm going to put an axe through the screen for being annoying.
Carl
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I have the scart to rca lead, I can get sound but only when I select the av1 as input, which means I am getting no picture and sound of a random channel. I can't see a way around it to be honest, I tried the dvd player which is connected through hdmi and that played its sound through the tv speakers whilst the new speakers were still playing the sound from the random channel.

I've scowered the menu's on the tv and nothing. Help much apprieciated but i'm starting to think that its just a stupid fucking TV.
Similiar happened when i bought a graphics card and spent about 8 days trying to set it up, only to find I had a motherboard that randomly wasn't compatable.
Carl
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I've plugged them into the dvd player, and they are working with that, which I can live with. It's not essential that had them working with digital tv but would have been nice. I take it it isn't possible due to the tv, to get it to recieve from the inbuilt digibox, whilst outputting through the scart to the speakers?
Dom
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22nd May 09 at 15:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you need some sort of audio output from the lcd, what LCD do you have?
Carl
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The only output is the optical digital one and i can't find anything that convertes it to make it compatble.. It is an lg 32pg6000 plasma.
kz
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Are you sure you don't have a headphone socket even in the side connections?
Carl
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quote:
Originally posted by kz
Are you sure you don't have a headphone socket even in the side connections?


100% (I've just checked again even though I knew.)
Dom
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Yup, you only have an optical out.
What you need is a DAC, something like -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDIO-ALCHEMY-DAC-IN-THE-BOX-MULTI-BIT-D-A-CONVERTER_W0QQitemZ150346273607QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item2301561347&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Zero-DAC-HEADPHONE-AMPLIFIER-DA-Converter-24-192-IN-UK_W0QQitemZ150347171835QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers?hash=item230163c7fb&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Musical-Fidelity-X-Dac-V3_W0QQitemZ320374654285QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_CDPlayerSeparates?hash=item4a97d1454d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AMC-DAC8-Digital-to-Analog-Converter-DAC_W0QQitemZ110392806129QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Amplifiers?hash=item19b3ec8af1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Musical-Fidelity-X-ACT-Dac_W0QQitemZ160336962605QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_CDPlayerSeparates?hash=item2554d3e42d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Beresford-TC-7510-Audio-DAC_W0QQitemZ280346904693QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item4145fa4875&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Or if you're handy with sticking a board (and a little soldering) in a case then (pretty good sounding and cheap) -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-BIG-24bit-192Hz-HI-FI-DAC-DIY-KIT-ASSEMBLED-MODULE_W0QQitemZ140321154909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_3?hash=item20abcae75d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/24bit-192Hz-HI-FI-DAC-DIY-KIT-ASSEMBLED-MODULE_W0QQitemZ140321896611QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_CDPlayerSeparates?hash=item20abd638a3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

You can get converters (digital coaxial to optical etc) if a DAC doesn't have an optical in, so don't worry about that when looking at a DAC.

But keep an eye on some of those, the AMC and Zero should go fairly cheap but see if you can pick up a bargin and stay this side of £100 quid (would put you in your £200 limit as well).
However i have to admit, it starts getting a little serious when you're using external DACs
John
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23rd May 09 at 17:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Surely there's an equal, if not better set up that takes an optical in for well within the 200 quid.

http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/531561/SAMSUNG-HT-Z220/tab/specification

Various others http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/category/483/Home-Cinema-Systems/n/7+1000483

[Edited on 23-05-2009 by John]
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23rd May 09 at 17:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looks like he doesnt have the space for a full 5.1 setup John

Have you looked at the Onkyo HTX22HD?

Excellent performer for the cash and had some excellent reviews, optical in aswell as HDMIs etc..

Also upgradeable to 3.1/5.1 just buy the extra speakers when you want them.


RicherSounds Onkyo
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23rd May 09 at 17:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Speakers can go up on the wall out the road but you wouldn't even have to use all the speakers.

I just think something that comes with an optical in is a much better bet than buying 100 quid dacs.

Just had a look at that onkyo system, looks perfect.

He's got a sub anyway with that AE system so the onkyo doesn't add a seperate amp to the equation.

Just seen it's 300 quid

One of the systems from comet and send the other one back.

[Edited on 23-05-2009 by John]
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Just realised you have already bought the other setup!


Is there anywhere in the setup menu to select the audio output through one of the scart sockets?

[Edited on 23-05-2009 by ash_corsa]
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Surely there's an equal, if not better set up that takes an optical in for well within the 200 quid.


You can pick up shite like creative and logitech for around £200 that have optical/coaxial in, but they sound pretty horrific especially the Z-5500's - the satellites are extremely harsh and the sub is flab-tastic, apparently it does 33Hz, yeaaaahhhhhh (Granted that it's a 5.1 setup).

A little more control over the Aego M's bass/sub would be nice but it's certainly the best sounding package for sub £150

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