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Benkid
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28th May 09 at 13:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

All 3 corsa b's i've owned and the majority of ones i've seen all crack in the B pillar. What do i need to strengthen to ensure this won't happen again after my re-spray?
stubs
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28th May 09 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can't you get someone to "lead" it for you?
Benkid
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28th May 09 at 13:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What is this "lead" you speak of? Whats the process and benefit of it?
stubs
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28th May 09 at 13:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lead filling... I think its mostly used on older cars, but it may be better than using regular body filler. I'm not too well up on it myself TBH.
DaveyLC
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28th May 09 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If you fill it the crack is still there though..

Vauxhall used to cut the inside of the b-pillar out weld in some reinforcing plates and then weld the back piece back in.
DaveyLC
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28th May 09 at 14:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

More to the point why not just with a another shell?? Your GSI shell has some rot, cracked b-pillar and a repaired bulk head, surely it makes more sense to buy a very clean late shell (98+) with a dead engine.
Benkid
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28th May 09 at 14:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hmmm interesting. Although i would of used liquid metal or welded it anyway but my mate tried this and said it came back again. Any other ideas? It's obviously twisting somewhere. Was going to suggest welding a strengthening bar/plate somewhere but don't know where lol?
DaveyLC
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28th May 09 at 14:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You HAVE to reinforce it mate thats the only cure, but is it worth doing? Get another shell
richc
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28th May 09 at 14:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Grind it back, spot it up. Paint. Job done!
Benkid
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28th May 09 at 14:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

New shell means more time, more money, which i don't have.
Benkid
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28th May 09 at 14:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

New shell means more time, more money, which i don't have.
DaveyLC
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28th May 09 at 14:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

But if you have it painted and the b pillar crcks again (which it will) or your bulk head cracks again (which it will) or the rust comes back (which it will) you will be really pissed off
Benkid
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28th May 09 at 14:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It will be repaired hence this thread. Just trying to find the best solution that DOESN'T involve re shellin it lol
DaveyLC
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28th May 09 at 14:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The issue is for the problems you have there is no real cure.

Rust always comes back unless you have the shell dipped in acid.

Metal always cracks again as the welded sections are more brittle

As you are spending so much money on an engine surely its worth saving a couple of hundred quid to buy a shell? Doesnt matter what model it is.
DaveyLC
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28th May 09 at 14:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

...Plus the paint is already peeling off from the previous respray so if you dont go bareshell its going to peel again after its resprayed which is another cost you have to consider.. So instead of paying to have the shell bare shelled, the rust sorted and the b-pillars fixed why not spend that money on a another shell?
Ben G
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28th May 09 at 14:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

read before that b pillar cracks were sorted out when the post 97 model came out? so maybe get a cheap 1.0 12v shell for a few hundred.
DaveyLC
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28th May 09 at 14:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
read before that b pillar cracks were sorted out when the post 97 model came out? so maybe get a cheap 1.0 12v shell for a few hundred.


Totally agree.. Get a 1.0 with EPS.
gazza808
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28th May 09 at 14:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
read before that b pillar cracks were sorted out when the post 97 model came out? so maybe get a cheap 1.0 12v shell for a few hundred.


98 sport, cracks
Ben G
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28th May 09 at 14:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ah, must have been a myth then
Benkid
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28th May 09 at 14:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
read before that b pillar cracks were sorted out when the post 97 model came out? so maybe get a cheap 1.0 12v shell for a few hundred.


Totally agree.. Get a 1.0 with EPS.

Don't have anywhere to re-shell it anyway. If i take it to either chris or nick there going to want extra money for storage and my driveways full so nerr
sxibeast
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28th May 09 at 14:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My x reg sxi didnt crack, nor did/has my brothers R reg corsa.......

But, my L reg has both sides!
SR91
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28th May 09 at 14:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My 99 had cracks well one
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28th May 09 at 14:53   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I cut out a section of the b pillar, tacked in a 5mm steel strengthening plate and then replaced the b pillar section - it didn't crack again in 50/60,000 miles and 5/6 years
steven_r2008
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28th May 09 at 16:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

99 'V' crached on drivers, 99 'T' cracked on drivers and 98 'S' cracked on drivers, passengers sides have all been fine only one that didn't crack was a 93 'L' only thing was the chassis was rotten on that one now its been to the crusher and gone to corsa heaven
Kurt
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28th May 09 at 17:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

None of mine ever cracked, I've had all pre 97's

2 1.4 8valve ls' and 1 1.2 8valve trip

Where my mates s reg 1.2 16v sxi did

[Edited on 28-05-2009 by Kurt]

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