ste_p23
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Can aftermarket throttle bodys such as Dblias be run with the powerbox on a x16xe engine?
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DAZ1985
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PMSL
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DaveyLC
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Yeah, you have to put them all in series, gives you 167.3bhp!
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Tom
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 they are essentially the same thing 
Do you mean can you enclose a throttle body set up?
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dean101287
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dbilas TB's come with a plenum to go on top
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Gareth F
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Hmmm surely you dont want to enclose TB's
Suppose this might stop rain water filling them up 
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ste_p23
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So they do
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Stu
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Originally posted by ste_p23
Can aftermarket throttle bodys such as Dblias be run with the powerbox on a x16xe engine?
The Dbilas throttle bodies come with their own plenum anyway!
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ste_p23
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Im just unsure what way to go with the x16xe atm so im looking into all the various options 
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by ste_p23
So they do
No they dont, I was being sarcastic, the power box is bolted to the manifold, you wouldnt be able to bolt it to throttle bodies.
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Stu
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Originally posted by Gareth F
Hmmm surely you dont want to enclose TB's
You have to with the Dbilas set up as you are reating the AFM 
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Gareth F
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No possible way to get rid of the AFM and use a different ecu
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Gareth F
No possible way to get rid of the AFM and use a different ecu
Of course there is.. but its just more money
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ste_p23
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Think im just gona stick with the powerbox and save my cash for sumthing in the future
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by ste_p23
Can aftermarket throttle bodys such as Dblias be run with the powerbox on a x16xe engine?
Ignore the goons, we all start somewhere...
Dbalis run 2 types of inlet systems. One is like a Mantzel power box, which replaces the inlet manifold plastics with 1 "box" which feeds the 4 inlet chambers. Runs off 1 throttle body.
The other is a more form of "throttle Bodies" where the standard inlet is totally removed and replaced with 4 seperate "throttle bodies". They sell this with a single inlet plenum which connects to an air filter. I can't remember if it uses 4 seperate butterfies/throttle bodies, or if it runs off 1 throttle body, but this kit has seen some bloody good gains, no matter how much I hate it.
Then you have proper throttle bodies, which have seperate throttles for each chamber, this needs an air filter on the road.
You will only need the "inlet box" on the first of these 3.
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ste_p23
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Originally posted by ste_p23
Can aftermarket throttle bodys such as Dblias be run with the powerbox on a x16xe engine?
Ignore the goons, we all start somewhere...
Dbalis run 2 types of inlet systems. One is like a Mantzel power box, which replaces the inlet manifold plastics with 1 "box" which feeds the 4 inlet chambers. Runs off 1 throttle body.
The other is a more form of "throttle Bodies" where the standard inlet is totally removed and replaced with 4 seperate "throttle bodies". They sell this with a single inlet plenum which connects to an air filter. I can't remember if it uses 4 seperate butterfies/throttle bodies, or if it runs off 1 throttle body, but this kit has seen some bloody good gains, no matter how much I hate it.
Then you have proper throttle bodies, which have seperate throttles for each chamber, this needs an air filter on the road.
You will only need the "inlet box" on the first of these 3. [/quote
Thanx mate you knew what i meant 
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Gareth F
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Gareth F
No possible way to get rid of the AFM and use a different ecu
Of course there is.. but its just more money
Im slowly learning, i have no mechanical knowledge really
Learn as i go along.
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Stu
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Originally posted by Gareth F
No possible way to get rid of the AFM and use a different ecu
Yeah but in that case you would just get a proper throttle body set up with standalone management. The advantages of the Dbilas is that its cheap and you dont have to change anything else apart from the inlet!
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Gareth F
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Bolt on 
I think ive seen them somewhere but cost a bomb!
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Stu
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To be honest if I was just going to throttle body a 1.6 corsa, I would probably go down the Dbilas route myself! Good gains, good price and they look pretty factory!
How do they sound? Like throttle bodies should?
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Daimo B
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I think Patricks were very muted with sound compared to TB...
But 167bhp, with minimal mods, and enough warrented stories about keeping up with quicker cars backed it up.
Just didn't put the decent times in on Corsa Vs Saxo day.
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Nick-S
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^ not realy, the plenum quietens them down so they sound not much diffrent to a car fitted with just an upper inlet.
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Nick-S
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daimo beat me to it.
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dean101287
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If i was to do it I would go for a second hand set of dbilas TB's, then save up for management, then get jenvey or similar TB's with some nice trumpets and a 30 degree inlet. Wish I had the money I used to have befor buying a house
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dean101287
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And just to clarify, this is what they are (my old ones)
Plenum on top
4 closed throttle bodies
4 open throttle bodies
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