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Sam

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1st Oct 09 at 08:09

What sort of spec 'rig' would you construct?

Half Pint

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1st Oct 09 at 08:23

a big one!

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1st Oct 09 at 08:50

Get a dual processor board and use a pair of Xeon 6 cores. 12gb of RAM, then there's always the possibility to up it to 256gb

Then one of the high end Quadro graphics cards. Hopefully that would render graphics quite quickly, and also let me do other work at the same time

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1st Oct 09 at 09:54

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Get a dual processor board and use a pair of Xeon 6 cores. 12gb of RAM, then there's always the possibility to up it to 256gb Then one of the high end Quadro graphics cards. Hopefully that would render graphics quite quickly, and also let me do other work at the same time

if im not mistaken quadro graphics cards are only really good for development because you can program your own shaders and this is the reason why they are so expensive.
So you would be better off just getting a high end geforce or whatever they want to call it now

sc0ott

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1st Oct 09 at 10:13

i know nothing about pc's in terms of specs but i would check google for the worlds most expensive pc or the worlds best spec'd pc and buy it.

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1st Oct 09 at 11:13

quote:
Originally posted by Reedy

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Get a dual processor board and use a pair of Xeon 6 cores. 12gb of RAM, then there's always the possibility to up it to 256gb Then one of the high end Quadro graphics cards. Hopefully that would render graphics quite quickly, and also let me do other work at the same time

if im not mistaken quadro graphics cards are only really good for development because you can program your own shaders and this is the reason why they are so expensive.
So you would be better off just getting a high end geforce or whatever they want to call it now

Gaming cards are pretty crappy for CAD. All the software I use reccomends a Quadro over a GeForce.

Marc

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1st Oct 09 at 11:17

I'd just buy the biggest spec pc I could get from Dell

John

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1st Oct 09 at 11:18

99% of people would just go and buy the most expensive parts for their needs, ie quadros and xeons, or i7's and whatever the latest ati and nvidia offerings are.

Building the best system for a set budget is a more exciting challenge.

I'd thrown some military spec ssd's in with whatever I built to see what all the fuss is about.

Reedy

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1st Oct 09 at 11:20

quote:
Originally posted by ed

quote:
Originally posted by Reedy

quote:
Originally posted by ed
Get a dual processor board and use a pair of Xeon 6 cores. 12gb of RAM, then there's always the possibility to up it to 256gb Then one of the high end Quadro graphics cards. Hopefully that would render graphics quite quickly, and also let me do other work at the same time

if im not mistaken quadro graphics cards are only really good for development because you can program your own shaders and this is the reason why they are so expensive.
So you would be better off just getting a high end geforce or whatever they want to call it now

Gaming cards are pretty crappy for CAD. All the software I use reccomends a Quadro over a GeForce.

Yeah Quadro's are used for business software / developers.
Geforce are aimed at gamers.

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1st Oct 09 at 11:40

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I'd thrown some military spec ssd's in with whatever I built to see what all the fuss is about.

Not brilliant

Through experience we found that you cannot run a database on one, after 50,000 writes the drive became unstable and eventually couldnt be read

Think we killed one within 24hours

John

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1st Oct 09 at 11:42

Place I work for makes them, the Americans pay a lot of money for whatever they use them for.

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1st Oct 09 at 11:42

50,000 writes? I'd be sending it back!

Neo

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1st Oct 09 at 11:50

quote:
Originally posted by pow
50,000 writes? I'd be sending it back!

SSD hasnt developed past that yet iirc

Neo

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1st Oct 09 at 11:54

Ok after a bit of research it seems they are getting better, but its not a flaw as such but a design limitation.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=1342

100,000 writes according to that article. But i know for a fact that they arent being used for some government projects in this country yet due to it.

John

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1st Oct 09 at 11:57

The one's I'm talking about are designed for the military.

Just checked the spec of a random one: 260 years @200GBytes/day write cycles

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1st Oct 09 at 12:05

id buy the internet

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1st Oct 09 at 12:08

quote:
Originally posted by oceansoul
id buy the internet

and shut it down

_Allan_

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1st Oct 09 at 12:08

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id buy the internet

You can't, I own it and won't sell, I'll let you rent it though. u2u me your bank details.

Sam

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1st Oct 09 at 12:16

What's the best spec CPU to go for these days?

John

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1st Oct 09 at 12:23

Core i7

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1st Oct 09 at 12:23

Depends on what you want to do. Gaming, internet points, raw power e.t.c..?

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1st Oct 09 at 12:31

Processing power TBH for applications in 64bit OS.

[Edited on 01-10-2009 by Sam]

Dom

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1st Oct 09 at 12:33

Intel D5400XS + 2 x QX9775 Processors (that's £2.5k). Load it up with 16GB of FBDIMM DDR2, a few SSDs in raid, a couple of GTX 295's in SLI. Something like that, or perhaps just max out a mac pro with a pair of 27" Dell monitors.

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1st Oct 09 at 12:39

All our powerful CAD machines seem to use Xeon processors. They work really nicely, especially the one with two of them

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1st Oct 09 at 13:42

Not sure about spec but it'd cost me around £5k I reckon