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Originally posted by Doug
So is that good or bad?

Is Pepsi Max better?

Or is Diet Coke better?

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Originally posted by Tiger
Definitly not any better for you. It has more Aspartame in it which dulls your brain receptors. Regular coke has it but zero has more due to containing less sugar.

http://www.dorway.com/

Its widely known by the government, food standards agencies etc. The sheer scale of companies like Coca Cola though seem to have a massive factor on keeping it under-rug-swept.

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Originally posted by Ben G
coke must have some form of sugar in it, whether they say it has or not.

no fizzy drinks are good for you in all honesty. water is the best form of re-hydrating yourself.

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Aspartame was never and cannot be proven to be safe. It is not and cannot be a diet aid because the formaldehyde (from the breakdown of the 10% methanol) gets stored in the fat along with some water. The National Soft Drink Association developed a 30-page protest (in the ’80s) that mentioned the fact that aspartame in a beverage was unstable, and that it reduced the levels of serotonin (a substance that gives one that “full” feeling), which can induce a craving for carbohydrates.

L-Aspartyl-l-phenylalanine methyl ester, 98%, aspartame CAS #22839-47-0 (a.k.a. Equal, NutraSweet, Spoonful, Benevia, Equal Measure, etc.) is composed of (at least) three things:

1.) aspartic acid, (around 40%) CAS # 56-84-8
2.) phenylalanine, (around 50%) CAS # 63-91-2
3.) methanol (wood alcohol) (10%) CAS # 67-56-1

The phenylalanine breaks down into diketopiperazine (DKP), a known tumor agent, and it is the reason for the FDA mandated “PHENYLKETONURICS: Contains phenylalanine” (PKU) warning label. Diketopiperazine was the major impediment to approval noted in the Searle “Helling” memo.

The methanol (with no natural antidote of Ethanol) breaks down in-solution (diet coke, whatever) into formaldehyde. The human liver also breaks down “free” methanol from any solution into formaldehyde. The body has difficulty eliminating formaldehyde so it combines some of it with water and stores it in the fat. What is not stored in the fat is further converted to formic acid (same thing as ant sting poison).

So, with each sip EVERY user gets a micro-dose of three poisons, two of which (formaldehyde and formic acid) are known carcinogens… along with that side-order of DKP, the tumor agent. A science report was done on diet cokes. The contents of the unopened cans was later evaluated by a reputable food testing laboratory that proved the methanol to formaldehyde conversion, even in the unopened container cooling off in the refrigerator, and the phenylalanine to DKP conversion.

A fairly complete list of aspartame breakdown components from the aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol is as follows:

Formaldehyde (embalming fluid) CAS # 50-00-0 CH2O
Formic Acid (ant poison) CAS # 64-18-6 CH2O2
Beta Aspartame **
Aspartylphenylalanine **
Aspartylphenylalanine amide **
Tyrosine CAS # 60-18-4 C9H11NO3
L-Dopa **
Dopamine **
Norepinephrine **
Epinephrine **
Phenylethylamine CAS # 64-04-0
Phenylpyruvate **
Phenylactic acid **
Phenylacetic acid CAS # 103-82-2
Diketopiperazine (DKP) CAS # 106-57-0

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Originally posted by Tiger
Look at it another way: Prove that chemicals like aspartame havent contributed to the increase in brain tumors, brain lesions and lymphoma since its introduction.

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Look at it another way: Prove that chemicals like aspartame havent contributed to the increase in brain tumors, brain lesions and lymphoma since its introduction.

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That is a rediculous argument.

Prove that eating copius amounts of cabbage doesnt give people brain tumors, brain lesions and lymphoma.

I suppose you also believe co2 is to blame for global warming

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Originally posted by Paul_J


Thing is, take the fluoride thats in our tooth paste... Fluoride is a harmful substance consumed whole in large quantities...

however, we all still brush our teeth containing fluoride... why aren't we dead??? oh - thats right, it contains a small 'safe' amount...

hence my point about the coke containing bad things.

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Originally posted by Paul_J
yeah ok mate

I suppose you prob think the aliens are probing our minds too and we should wear foil hats

You know what they say...

If you don't like the Diet coke in the Uk...

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Originally posted by Tiger
Look at it another way: Prove that chemicals like aspartame havent contributed to the increase in brain tumors, brain lesions and lymphoma since its introduction.

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Originally posted by ed

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Look at it another way: Prove that chemicals like aspartame havent contributed to the increase in brain tumors, brain lesions and lymphoma since its introduction.

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I think that people who aren't scientists should stop trying to pretend to be scientists.

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Originally posted by glasgow_corsa_c
7up Zero./diet/light..watever the fuck its called FTW boys!

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Look at it another way: Prove that chemicals like aspartame havent contributed to the increase in brain tumors, brain lesions and lymphoma since its introduction.

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I think that people who aren't scientists should stop trying to pretend to be scientists.

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And that the scientists that do research with credible evidence should make their research better well known.

Hear hear.

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