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corsa120
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   5th Mar 03 at 16:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i was lookin at the weights of corsa's and it seems most corsa 1.4/1.6 sport and gsi's are around the 1300/400 kg mark to me this is fucking heavy considering all the cars in its class like the saxo vtr weigh only 930 kg that is a 30% loss in weight compared to the corsa, i even noticed my corsa is heavier than the calibra 2.0 16v eh what went wrong?????? if the corsa only weight 950 kg's i think it would fuckin fly and i literally mean fly 400 kg's is basically 2 motorbikes in weight sittin on the corsa compared to the saxo
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they dont weigh that much thats the gross weight with four passengers and their luggage! 1400 is 989kg and 1600 is 1029kg but what i cant work out is what the hell is the extra 40kg! they r both near identical cars inc aircon wheels seats etc. the only real diff is bigger brakes and 10mm wider tyres
miles
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5th Mar 03 at 17:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

heavier than the nova!
RickV6
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5th Mar 03 at 17:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

bound ta be isn't it. Corsas got aircon, airbags, emmissions stuff, safety equipment, better insulation, stronger bodyshell etc etc etc
Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by RickV6
they dont weigh that much thats the gross weight with four passengers and their luggage! 1400 is 989kg and 1600 is 1029kg but what i cant work out is what the hell is the extra 40kg! they r both near identical cars inc aircon wheels seats etc. the only real diff is bigger brakes and 10mm wider tyres


The difference is called build quality mate. Any French fool can make a lighter weight car out of biscuit tin material.
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5th Mar 03 at 17:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats so true.

My car weighs just under a ton. Even with the extra bits i've added Makes for a nippy and very responcive car.
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corsa120
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well read all the magazines they state the corsa sri to weigh 1320 kg's and the saxo vtr to be 930 kg's so that means if the real weight of a corsa sport is 989kg's then the saxo must weigh about 550 kg's this is the true weight no wonder there slower than most in there class they weight loads lol
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
quote:
Originally posted by RickV6
they dont weigh that much thats the gross weight with four passengers and their luggage! 1400 is 989kg and 1600 is 1029kg but what i cant work out is what the hell is the extra 40kg! they r both near identical cars inc aircon wheels seats etc. the only real diff is bigger brakes and 10mm wider tyres


The difference is called build quality mate. Any French fool can make a lighter weight car out of biscuit tin material.

Eh! I was on about Corsas not that French 'Takeaway container' shite
Andy
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Most magazines talk bo11ox. Rick is right - the 1400 is 989kg and 1600 is 1029kg
Andy
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Yeah Rick - I'm agreeing with you!!
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just looked on citroen website Saxo weights (uladen as figures i gave for Corsa above) Saxo VTR is 920kg VTS 935kg
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
Yeah Rick - I'm agreeing with you!!

Oh right, i'll get me coat!
Just dint read right at first
RickV6
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5th Mar 03 at 18:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Back to my question, whats the 40kg difference between 1.4 and 1.6 Sport? anybody
corsa120
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well go outside and take a look at the plate under the bonnet and read the plate at the front its says 1335 kg's weight
and wet weight which is the most the car could carry is about 2300 kg's
go on take a look
Andy
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Corsa 120 - I'm sorry I can't put it any other way, but you must be a bit dense. The kerb weight is the weight of the unladen car and the gross weight is what is can carry loaded to the hilt. The kerb weight for Corsas (given in any Vauxhall handbook) are as Rick has stated. And do you honestly believe that you could load up your car with an extra tonne of weight and expect it to remain driveable?? A corsa plus contents weighing nearly 2.5 tonnes
Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by RickV6
Back to my question, whats the 40kg difference between 1.4 and 1.6 Sport? anybody


Even though I'm biased (I hate French cars and I hate the French too) I honestly believe that it's down to the Corsa's stronger and thicker panels and structural design.
corsa120
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andy sorry m8 but no im not thick all im askin is for u to go and check ur label under the bonnet

then come back and tell me what it reads

[Edited on 05-03-2003 by corsa120]
RickV6
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the first figure is gross permissable weight (my 1600 is 1465kg) fook knows wot the second one is
Tells ya in owners manual. hope you appreciate this i'm runnin round lookin for brochures and gettin wet outside
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
quote:
Originally posted by RickV6
Back to my question, whats the 40kg difference between 1.4 and 1.6 Sport? anybody


Even though I'm biased (I hate French cars and I hate the French too) I honestly believe that it's down to the Corsa's stronger and thicker panels and structural design.

No no no the diff between Corsa 1.4 and corsa 1.6
Plymouth_Corsa
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5th Mar 03 at 18:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

but surely in a magazine, if they take one weight, they must use the same weight for other vehicles as well, not one kerb weight, and the other gross weight and all that crap...?!
corsa120
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plymouth dats wat im sayin in all the mags the weight of an sri is 1335 or somat kg's saxo vtr is 930kg's ford zetec-s is 1240 kg's so wat are they lieing and makin it up my badge in my bonnet says 1340 kg's mine a 1.4 16v sport
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yeah - Rick aint chattin bout saxo/corsa wieght, he's askin why the 1.6 16v is 40kg heavier than the 1.4 16v.....hmmm.....Brakes (bigger), Rollbars (thicker), tyres, Engine!!??? (bigger capacity mean its heavier? i dunno)

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5th Mar 03 at 18:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wot the fook, have you not taken in a word i have written its all correct info from vauxhall brochures citroen website etc!
G O B A C K A N D R E A D I T A L L S L O W L Y ! ! !
Think Andys right!
RickV6
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Above post to corsa120 (def not yer IQ is it)
ainsley_brader
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5th Mar 03 at 18:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

early 1.4 sports didnt have abs and pas as std?

Is the difference there?


As for the second figure on the vin plate im guessing its a train weight ie the max weight of car and trailer.

Ainsley

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