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Tiger
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In 1997, my first car was a B Reg Nova 1.2L It had had 11 owners, been driven with low oil, thrashed to within an inch of its life and it sailed past 100,000 in my ownership until I sold it, it then got driven round for at least another 5 years in the local town til I saw it no more, who knows, it could still be doing its rounds, but I doubt it.

My Audi A3 1.8T has 130,000 miles and when it was compression tested, it had the same figures as new, its now up for sale as I have just bought a new BMW with 65,000 miles on.

I had a friend who's dads old Escort clocked up 275,000 miles on the original engine. He had a new g-box in it, but the engine remained until he sold it.

You could say that modern engines sail past 100,000 but so did my old Nova, and that was as basic as they come.

A lad at work has a 1.2 Corsa C and he thrashes it from cold every day. It has about 50,000 on the clock and it blows black smoke out everywhere, it sounds a nail.

So in summary, i'd have a car that had 130,000 and was well maintained than a newer car with 50,000 that was thrashed and poorly serviced
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my boss has a 5 series beemer with 140k on the clock and its spotless, no marks on the leather or anything. only thing its needed in 3 years is 4 new tyres and a windscreen that got chipped, on top of servicing. shows what difference it makes when you look after a car!
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If it's maintained well then mileage isnt a problem, my Vectra was on 130k, I scrapped that because it was rusty but the engine was fine. My XSI is just shy of 110k and it runs perfect.
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A bloke at work had a car (think it was a 5 series) that had over 250k on it when he sold it and it's still going strong. As said really, if you look after it then it'll run until the cows come home.

[Edited on 31-12-2009 by Daveskater]


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The engines may run forever but the rest of the car has still done 100k+.

I've got a 95k car on the driveway, a 70k one and 2 under 15k, the 95k one feels fine when you're driving it, still tight and the engine is fine but as soon as you get into even the 70k one the difference is massive.

The higher mileage ones are only good when there's nothing to compare it to.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
The engines may run forever but the rest of the car has still done 100k+.



The rest of the car may have done 100,000 but a lot gets replaced:

Wheel Bearings
Brakes
Pads
CV Joints
Drive Shafts
Suspension
Master Cylinders
Fluids

Apart from the shell, what other mechanics make 100,000 without the obvious gearbox, transmission.

[Edited on 31-12-2009 by Tiger]
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Suppose it depends on age too, an older car with less mileage might be worse than a new car with higher mileage because of the bushes etc cracking due to age.
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both my cars are over 100k and both are in excellent condition bodywork wise and mechanical wise. i look after both extremely well. mileage doesnt bother me at all aslong as things are looked after.
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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
Apart from the shell, what other mechanics make 100,000 without the obvious gearbox, transmission.




It's just the car as a whole, you can feel it's not as tight as you thought it was when you jump straight into something newer.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
Apart from the shell, what other mechanics make 100,000 without the obvious gearbox, transmission.




It's just the car as a whole, you can feel it's not as tight as you thought it was when you jump straight into something newer.


Definitly 100% agree, although I noticed that changing all the bushes really tightened up the handling and feel of a car. Most bushes tend to be untouched I find and practically fall apart when the time comes to change them..
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quote:
Originally posted by John
quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
Apart from the shell, what other mechanics make 100,000 without the obvious gearbox, transmission.




It's just the car as a whole, you can feel it's not as tight as you thought it was when you jump straight into something newer.


why would a car thats been looked after and maintained properly be any different to a newer car? my corsa is 16 years old. it feels tighter and better to drive than most cars that are 6 years old.
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My seat inca van is on 189k and it runs sweeter than the new partner vans we got at work
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Your car may be slightly different because it's all uprated parts, I can't comment on that because I've got no experience of it.
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I love the way an old car feels, I drive different types of new cars every day and it's very rare I come across one I enjoy driving.
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quote:
Originally posted by DannyB
I love the way an old car feels, I drive different types of new cars every day and it's very rare I come across one I enjoy driving.


new cars lack feel completely i find.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
why would a car thats been looked after and maintained properly be any different to a newer car? my corsa is 16 years old. it feels tighter and better to drive than most cars that are 6 years old.


I guess to some degree, depending on the conditions they are driven in, certain plastics/rubbers on an older car are more likely to perish, whereas on a newer car they may use different chemicals to reduce the effects of perishing. This is speculation of course, but take PVC and UPVC for example.
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by DannyB
I love the way an old car feels, I drive different types of new cars every day and it's very rare I come across one I enjoy driving.


new cars lack feel completely i find.


Cars with no power assisted this, that and the other definitly feel better to drive. Its the modern 'comfort' age that has resulted in this I feel.
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Yeah, hit the nail on the head there. I drove an 08 plate Focus ST today and as soon as I sat down I didn't like it, the seats were awfull.
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My 12v is on 100k and still going strong.

Replaced the clutch and the front springs, rear shocks etc.

But it's looked after and serviced every 9k-10k as it's supposed to.

I rarely drive it hard and when I do, it has to be warm. Never not started etc.

I feel it'll start costing me money on things like wheel bearings etc, but will hopefully do me till June time when I'll get rid.

It definitely depends on how the car has been looked after. But I'll be looking for a low mileage well looked after replacement for sure.
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my vectra was on 90k when i bought it but it came with full service history, past mot's and things its needed to pass and was a vvoc owners car. i never actually even considered the mileage as i knew the car was well and truly looked after. its now on 101k miles and its still as looked after and drives great.

mileage is irrelevant if you look after things. its a snobish comment to make if mileage concerns you when you know the car itself is mechanical spot on.
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I supposed its peoples naturally suspicious minds really, if they have no idea of the history of a vehicle, they see 100,000 miles and step away. I'm talking about none car people, not people like (some of) us that have a genuine understanding of cars.
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if a car has what you'd consider high miles, yet has all the history in the world to back it up, and has been maintained and serviced and repaired properly, i really dont see what all the drama is about.

sadly, mileage snobs exist. and its generally these people that dont have a clue about vehilcles who then would purchase a 20k miles car that has been ragged to death and never looked after, just beacuase it has less miles. which tbh serves them right if they have more problems with it.
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What if you buy a good condition 20k mile one instead of a 100k mile one?
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My bm has done 130k but its an ex rep mobile so I couldnt give a toss.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
What if you buy a good condition 20k mile one instead of a 100k mile one?


what if you are clueless about vehicles and dont? you have bought it based on mileage. which these days isnt as much of a factor of buying a car as it was 30 years ago.

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