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cjohnson
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Hi all, I'm contemplating doing a 1.8 conversion on my car. Which Vectra does the x18xe1 come out of? Noticed that some look different under the bonnet. Thinking the best way would be to buy a full running Vectra and strip it of good. Then get all ecu etc for it, then just scrap the shell

Wanting some info on what's needed to do the conversion. Is it the same mounts as a redtop conversion?

What about driveshafts? etc etc.

I know most of what to do with regards to fitting a redtop, but not much of an idea on the 1.8.

Any help is appreciated. Cheers.
chrisritch
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u2u daveyc or whatever it is lol hes pretty hot on 1.8 conversions
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Basically the X18XE1 is the engine with the cable throttle.

The engine (due to being a smallblock) mates to the standard Corsa gearbox thus the driveshafts etc is taken care of. Also uses the same engine mount as a small block Corsa.

DaveyLC's Corsa project thread covers it really!
cjohnson
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24th Jan 10 at 18:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just had a quick scan through Davey's thread. Doesn't look that hard to do in all fairness. Dad seems to think we could do it easily. May be anothe 1.8 corsa on here soon!
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comes out of a vectra from n to s or t reg. pre facelift
cjohnson
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quote:
Originally posted by paw_87
comes out of a vectra from n to s or t reg. pre facelift


Oh right sound mate. Thought it would have been facelift tbh with it having the nice cover on etc.
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haw quick are the 1.8 corsas then ??
cjohnson
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25th Jan 10 at 10:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'd also like to know this tbh. I'd imagine they will be quick for a corsa, but obviously not as quick as a redtop or anything.
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always thought the x18xe was cable throttle and x18xe1 elctronic?
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yee redtops are very very quick lol i imagine the 1.8 arnt too far behind
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X18XE1 is cable driven and found in W/X/Y and some 51 plate vectra B's.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by paw_87
comes out of a vectra from n to s or t reg. pre facelift


Oh right sound mate. Thought it would have been facelift tbh with it having the nice cover on etc.


Davey has put a different engine cover on it IIRC
cjohnson
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Originally posted by swill_omnibus
X18XE1 is cable driven and found in W/X/Y and some 51 plate vectra B's.



sounds more like it mate.
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
quote:
Originally posted by cjohnson
quote:
Originally posted by paw_87
comes out of a vectra from n to s or t reg. pre facelift


Oh right sound mate. Thought it would have been facelift tbh with it having the nice cover on etc.


Davey has put a different engine cover on it IIRC


IIRC he put the Z18XE cover onto the X18XE1
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It will be quicker than a 1.6 16v but not as quick as a 2.0 XE i would imagine lol
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The closest estimation (in standard form) would be to look at the Corsa C 1.8 SRi spec on parkers. Should give you a good idea.

Though only difference would be gearbox used.
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Ok, what gearbox would you recommend? I'd imagine the 1.4 box in mine would be pretty useless.? Or am I wrong? would 1.6 box be a better option?
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Engine Size 1796 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 8.0 s
Power Output 123 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 165 Nm 122 lb-ft
Top Speed 126 mph

But this is based on the corsa C with the Z18XE engine so it will slightly differ to a corsa B with a X18XE1 in
DaveyLC
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cjohnson: If you want a loom building give me a shout via U2U

quote:
Originally posted by paw_87
comes out of a vectra from n to s or t reg. pre facelift


Its the other way round.. The X18XE1 is on the later cars up to 2001.
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Originally posted by swill_omnibus
Engine Size 1796 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 8.0 s
Power Output 123 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 165 Nm 122 lb-ft
Top Speed 126 mph

But this is based on the corsa C with the Z18XE engine so it will slightly differ to a corsa B with a X18XE1 in


The Corsa C weighs like two B's
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Ok cheers matey. What you mean by building a loom? So that it can be just plug and play for me when I fit?
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
quote:
Originally posted by swill_omnibus
Engine Size 1796 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 8.0 s
Power Output 123 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 165 Nm 122 lb-ft
Top Speed 126 mph

But this is based on the corsa C with the Z18XE engine so it will slightly differ to a corsa B with a X18XE1 in


The Corsa C weighs like two B's


Well that's the lee-way

How you keeping anyway Dave?
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quote:
Originally posted by swill_omnibus
quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
quote:
Originally posted by swill_omnibus
Engine Size 1796 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 8.0 s
Power Output 123 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 165 Nm 122 lb-ft
Top Speed 126 mph

But this is based on the corsa C with the Z18XE engine so it will slightly differ to a corsa B with a X18XE1 in


The Corsa C weighs like two B's


Well that's the lee-way

How you keeping anyway Dave?


Also a 1.4 gearbox will be fine, if anything quicker. Though a 1.6 box maybe a good future-proof option if you get into high tuning etc.
cjohnson
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25th Jan 10 at 11:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Would this be the x18xe1 without looking then? Something along these lines.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1999-Vauxhall-Vectra-LS-1-8-16V-Green-5-Door-Hatchback_W0QQitemZ150408197093QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item230506f3e5
cjohnson
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Are these the same?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1999-VAUXHALL-ASTRA-CDX-16V-GREEN_W0QQitemZ220545886358QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item33598f2896

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