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Author Getting around the scrappage scheme
Matt H
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28th Jan 10 at 22:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
When my Dad was looking at new cars a salesman was telling him that there are ways around the rules

Here's the scenario he gave

You want to buy a new car & get scrappage discount, but you don't have an old car

Your friend does however & might want rid of their car

You buy the car, but in your friends details with payments from your account. Makes their car eligible to chop in

As soon as the log book arrives with your friend you sign the paperwork over to you

Job done.


Anyone done it? Or used another way around?

To do this I suppose you do need to trust the other person, and not use the car until you own it.

It's a pain but as I've found some dealers will give extra discount with the scrappage but then become a tight arse as soon as you say you don't have a car to hack in

The government only contribute £1000 don't they? So surely as long as the price is £1000 more it's the same whether you scrap or not or not?
John
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28th Jan 10 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
As long as the new car is sold to the person that owns the scrapper that's it.
Nic Barnes
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28th Jan 10 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
scrappage scheme appears to be getting phased out of a lot of main dealers round here lately.
Matt H
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28th Jan 10 at 23:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by John
As long as the new car is sold to the person that owns the scrapper that's it.


Yep, but I can't think of anyone I know who has one to scrap

Don't forget it needs tax & test
John
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28th Jan 10 at 23:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Does it need test?

I know you can tow it in if you want.
Matt H
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28th Jan 10 at 23:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
As long as it expired no more than 14 days before you trade it in
aim1
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28th Jan 10 at 23:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
How bad can it be if its just getting scrapped? My sister gave her car a bit of a whack down both sides but its still got tax and mot.
Rich H
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28th Jan 10 at 23:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
scrappage scheme appears to be getting phased out of a lot of main dealers round here lately.


It was only meant to go on till the end of the 15% VAT or something anyway wasn't it?
Matt H
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28th Jan 10 at 23:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I know, it's daft

I'd happily pay 15K & not mess about, than fool around like this just to save £1000

By the time you've paid your friend off for their car & troubles & taken into account that your new car is officially 2nd hand. £1000 more almost sounds better
Matt H
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quote:
Originally posted by Rich H
quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
scrappage scheme appears to be getting phased out of a lot of main dealers round here lately.


It was only meant to go on till the end of the 15% VAT or something anyway wasn't it?


Ends 28th Feb
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28th Jan 10 at 23:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
mazda are offering £6,000 on scrapage
Matt H
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28th Jan 10 at 23:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Anty
mazda are offering £6,000 on scrapage



Ermmm I don't have a scrappage car

I'm after a Volvo C30 anyway
Matt H
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29th Jan 10 at 13:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Any more ideas?
a_j_mair
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29th Jan 10 at 13:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
as you have said pointless as you have to pay friend for car and your new car is second hand and will probably depreitiate the car further meaning all that hassle for bugger all

best deals are to be had at end of month when targets are to be met

possibilt March? just before end of tax year?
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29th Jan 10 at 13:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Would be quicker and cheaper to find a pre-reg model, surely?
corb
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29th Jan 10 at 13:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
£1000 comes from the government, the rest from the manufacturers, not the dealers. The manufacturer has to give at least £1000 on scrappage but more if they want.

There are separate deals running for non-scrappage customers.

It ends 28th Feb or when the allocated money runs out, whichever is sooner. At this rate it will go on until 28th Feb as they put an extra £100 000 000 into it a few months ago to keep the ball rolling.

That is a way around Matt, but at one point there was word that the car had to be kept for at least a year! But I dont think that came into force for obvious reasons!
Matt H
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29th Jan 10 at 14:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
£1000 comes from the government, the rest from the manufacturers, not the dealers. The manufacturer has to give at least £1000 on scrappage but more if they want.

So I can more or less get 2000 above scrappage deal price with no issues?
Matt L
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29th Jan 10 at 15:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
jenko did this iirc with his gf's ibiza, nothing really dodgy with it is there just shows as two owners.
Matt H
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29th Jan 10 at 17:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just been into Volvo & gpot some figures. Nearly £3000 price difference

I feel enraged that my car isn't eligible
IvIarkgraham
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29th Jan 10 at 17:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
find someone with a shit car. offer them £700 but tell them to date the transfer to over a year ago
Matt H
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29th Jan 10 at 17:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I very much doubt that this would work
Kurt
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suposedly the lads at another dealer were doing this with the Fiat 500 scrappage deal.
They were trading in all their friends and families cars to get scrappage 500's to then sell on..

But i had heard a bit after that once they sent off the log books to be changed the dvla just sent them back unchanged..
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29th Jan 10 at 18:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Would that not just add an extra previous owner? I know it doesnt matter too much, but if you came to sell it after a year or 2 and it has already had "2 owners" people might not be as keen
Matt H
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29th Jan 10 at 18:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Maybe so, but £3000 extra discount is a lot of money to save

The number of owners thing only seems to work if it's "one lady owner"
Lukeb
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29th Jan 10 at 19:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
find someone with a shit car. offer them £700 but tell them to date the transfer to over a year ago



i'd be happy to take that for my car

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