DannyE2010
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1.6 16v Sport Engine
VX Performance Inlet Manifold
Decat
Ashely Sport Backbox
4-2-1 Manifold
what kind of bhp would you est this at to be as im thinking of purchasing a 1.6 sport engine ready for next year
cheers
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AlexW
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120/130 at most.
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I'd say 125/130
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jamesy1990
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a would say your lookin at a easy 130 neebz
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DannyE2010
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ok cheers for that evryone aprechiated
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Daimo B
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120bhp, as these boxes need higher revs to make the power.
Higher revs = aftermarket chip
higher revs = ARP Rod bolts.
De-cat won't do much, it'll rasp, and standard cat isn't too restrictive.
I would have:
1.6 16v Sport Engine
VX Performance Inlet Manifold
4-2-1 exhaust manifold
CAT back system
ARP Rod bolts
Superchips raised rev limit (7500rpm)
Standard airbox with free flow panel filter element.
And stick in some 264 degree cams (? think thats the higher lift, without needing pocketted pistons).
Should see a healthy 135-140bhp.
[Edited on 08-02-2010 by VXR]
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jamesy1990
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
120bhp, as these boxes need higher revs to make the power.
Higher revs = aftermarket chip
higher revs = ARP Rod bolts.
De-cat won't do much, it'll rasp, and standard cat isn't too restrictive.
I would have:
1.6 16v Sport Engine
VX Performance Inlet Manifold
4-2-1 exhaust manifold
nah thats shite , your looking at a easy 140 +++ with those mods ,
CAT back system
ARP Rod bolts
Superchips raised rev limit (7500rpm)
Standard airbox with free flow panel filter element.
And stick in some 264 degree cams (? think thats the higher lift, without needing pocketted pistons).
Should see a healthy 135-140bhp.
[Edited on 08-02-2010 by VXR]
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sc0ott
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Check here,
http://corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=540060
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Pete_vxl
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I had all of what you have listed and i got 128bhp
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DannyE2010
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cheers every one ill deffo look into it
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Pete_vxl
I had all of what you have listed and i got 128bhp
Other half had all the above (But named brands) and ran 161bhp @ 7519rpm 
C16XE ftw...
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jamesy1990
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by Pete_vxl
I had all of what you have listed and i got 128bhp
Other half had all the above (But named brands) and ran 161bhp @ 7519rpm
C16XE ftw...
very very very impresive
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AlexW
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TBH it depends on the rollers. Id love to see all these power figures checked at Track 'N' Road in essex (One of the best/most accurate dynos in the UK)
Usually is it very hard to get over 150 without major mods (Carbs, TB's, Supercharging/Turbocharging.)
Even with a powerbox the full advantage cant be used due to the standard lower half. I plan to show the performance gains of simple turning like a custom inlet and a C16XE/X16XEL head.
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lostboy
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by Pete_vxl
I had all of what you have listed and i got 128bhp
Other half had all the above (But named brands) and ran 161bhp @ 7519rpm
C16XE ftw...
161 bhp with just an inlet manifold, decat, 4-2-1 and backbox? I don't beleive that, C16XE is 109 bhp as standard and there is no way she could gain 52 bhp from only them mods, I doubt I'll see much more than that with my engine, if that much at all, and I'm doing a-fucking-lot more than that.
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quote:
Originally posted by AW06
TBH it depends on the rollers. Id love to see all these power figures checked at Track 'N' Road in essex (One of the best/most accurate dynos in the UK)
Usually is it very hard to get over 150 without major mods (Carbs, TB's, Supercharging/Turbocharging.)
Even with a powerbox the full advantage cant be used due to the standard lower half. I plan to show the performance gains of simple turning like a custom inlet and a C16XE/X16XEL head.
Step aside kiddo, let the pro's deal with this, mine should be done soon 
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Daimo B
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very very very impresive
Ignoring the other cocky wippets as they were still at school when the engine was done and are on teh Internet rampage.
But yeah, very impressive. Was tuned by Mantzel UK themselves. Power runs before, and after, and compared with a previous RR run. Power could only be out by around 5bhp with differences tallied up.
Put it this way, it would quite happily sit on the ass of my 2.0 corsa until about 90 when mine would pull ahead. Considering her car was about as light as HMS Ark Royal, it was bloody fast.
Engine was sold to SBD after it went pop as a development engine, where I heard they managed to get 256bhp from it!!!!
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Daimo B
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Originally posted by AW06
Even with a powerbox the full advantage cant be used due to the standard lower half. I plan to show the performance gains of simple turning like a custom inlet and a C16XE/X16XEL head.
C16 kit came with lower manifold. Understand the engine, they are not X16 engines, much better heads on them.
And also proven by a Nova that also ran the same engine modifications, which made 156bhp.
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AlexW
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Andrew if yours is done by the end of the year il give you a bum.
VXR - Those mods wouldnt see that power, what else was done?
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lostboy
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I'm not being a cocky whippet, its obvious when I am, but I do not beleive it made 161 bhp, if you said 130 - 140 I could have believed that, but not 161 without carbs or throttle bodies.
Alex - I look forward to seeing you in a few months to receive my prize
[Edited on 09-02-2010 by lostboy]
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AlexW
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by AW06
Even with a powerbox the full advantage cant be used due to the standard lower half. I plan to show the performance gains of simple turning like a custom inlet and a C16XE/X16XEL head.
C16 kit came with lower manifold. Understand the engine, they are not X16 engines, much better heads on them.
And also proven by a Nova that also ran the same engine modifications, which made 156bhp.
I know the difference between a C and X engine, im not just some interweb cock that things i know what im talking about.
To which bit are you referring anyway.
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lostboy
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quote:
Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by AW06
Even with a powerbox the full advantage cant be used due to the standard lower half. I plan to show the performance gains of simple turning like a custom inlet and a C16XE/X16XEL head.
C16 kit came with lower manifold. Understand the engine, they are not X16 engines, much better heads on them.
And also proven by a Nova that also ran the same engine modifications, which made 156bhp.
C16XE with an X16XEL head makes better power than with a C16XE head, so you're wrong there.
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AlexW
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^The point i was making.
What nova anyway? In total vauxhall by any chance?
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Daimo B
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Jeshhh, this argument was covered in the year 2001, im not going over it again.
If you don't want to believe it, fine, don't. It did make the power, it was proven.
XEL head had larger triangular ports, but didn't make hardly any more power than the C16 head.
Nova was green/blueish colour, manztel engine, black 15s. Last saw it at billing in 2001.
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lostboy
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Was it put on one of them rolling roads that are brought to shows on a trailor? Lol. And yes the XEL isn't alot better although SBD do recommend it http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Head_Components/Head_Mods/1_6L_Vauxhall%20Heads_Mods.htm
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quote:
Originally posted by lostboy
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Originally posted by VXR
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Originally posted by AW06
Even with a powerbox the full advantage cant be used due to the standard lower half. I plan to show the performance gains of simple turning like a custom inlet and a C16XE/X16XEL head.
C16 kit came with lower manifold. Understand the engine, they are not X16 engines, much better heads on them.
And also proven by a Nova that also ran the same engine modifications, which made 156bhp.
C16XE with an X16XEL head makes better power than with a C16XE head, so you're wrong there.
Nope C16xe head was better and this is backed up by the fact SBD buy them at a premium just like the Costcast heads on the 20XE's
Lee Mannings car had
Manzel
264 Schricks
7500 rev limit
Was datron tracked at 0-60 in under 7 secs and did the standing quarter in the low 15's. Was a very quick and well set up car back in the day
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