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BrunnoMaia
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26th Jun 10 at 02:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi guys,

What I need to do in my engine to get more than 180hp ?

Manifolds, cams, Ecu, valves, Exhaust system?

I will use Ethanol .
*JonnyG*
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26th Jun 10 at 02:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Stick a 2 litre in it.
BrunnoMaia
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quote:
Originally posted by *JonnyG*
Stick a 2 litre in it.


here in Brazil itīs impossible do that, I need to keep the genuine engine.
Eck
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26th Jun 10 at 03:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Tbh you should just buy Brosters' engine. That's probably the cheapest way (Yes, really) that will be reliable without the use of forced induction!
williamz
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Throttle bodies are your answer but wont be cheap
dannymccann
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quote:
Originally posted by Eck
Tbh you should just buy Brosters' engine. That's probably the cheapest way (Yes, really) that will be reliable without the use of forced induction!


Not sure its worth the cost of shipping it to brazil
Alex_Rally
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26th Jun 10 at 07:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

drill the block and mount a massive scooby turbo on the manifold
nikkijamie
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26th Jun 10 at 07:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

forged pistons, steel rods, solid lifters, steel crank, throttle bodies, cams, valves
excellent exhaust etc and about Ģ7000
look on SBDEV.CO.UK or try QED

[Edited on 26-06-2010 by nikkijamie]
Alex_Rally
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it would be rather interesting if you put all that kit on a 1.6 like .... a reckon u would have some fun
nikkijamie
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fucking expensive, unless your sure you'll never sell it and make a big loss as it will never be worth any more than 6.5k
Alex_Rally
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if that its a very small market .... some1 who would wanna spend that kid of cash on a corsa b .... not many ppl
Alex_Rally
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kind**** not kid
philip2
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180bhp is easy. Cheaper way is, arp rod bolts, pocketed stock pistons, 288cams, tbs, bit of headwork, dual springs and steel caps and a decent ex manifold/system wil see 180 with ease.

Im building mine soon bt have steel rods, hi comp cp pistons, c16 head ported, dual springs, caps, im limited on cams as mine are long duration 285s, bike carbs but wil see 175-185bhp, after speaking to martin bowyer who got most parts off, if i go onto solids i could see just over 200bhp.


Depends on budget
philip2
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26th Jun 10 at 08:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Double post sory

[Edited on 26-06-2010 by philip2]
Alex_Rally
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these are crazy figures guys i never thought it possible nice to here tho
Rob-e91
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My brother inlaw has a corsa 1600 in his nova which is 190 bhp, and his good friend has a fiberglass nova which is 230 bhp with a 6 speed sequential (crazy power to weight ratio)!, but to see those sort of figures you would definetely need solid lifters and throttle bodies steel rods and good pistons! and your talking a good few grand, if thats what your looking to do i'd buy a 1760 kit and get the block bored i know someone who's done this also and it doesnt half go!
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26th Jun 10 at 09:05   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i did 190bhp with standard bottom end, just ported head, 288 cams, std lifters, bodies and management.

then i built an engine good for 240bhp, that cost me lots! its now forsale.....
taylorboosh
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26th Jun 10 at 09:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by *JonnyG*
Stick a 2 litre in it.


that would still only be 150
N3CRO
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26th Jun 10 at 13:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by geordie_corsa
drill the block and mount a massive scooby turbo on the manifold


Nah, that would blow the welds on the intake.
sand-eel
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26th Jun 10 at 13:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If you are using ethanol it will be piss easy to get 180bhp, you can use very advanced ignition timing.


[Edited on 26-06-2010 by sand-eel]
connollygt30
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You been drinking ethanol?
*JonnyG*
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quote:
Originally posted by john-d
quote:
Originally posted by *JonnyG*
Stick a 2 litre in it.


that would still only be 150


Fine.. v6.
nikkijamie
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quote:
Originally posted by nikkijamie
forged pistons, steel rods, solid lifters, steel crank, throttle bodies, cams, valves
excellent exhaust etc and about Ģ7000
look on SBDEV.CO.UK or try QED

[Edited on 26-06-2010 by nikkijamie]


this should see 220 bhp if built correctly and be strong with all the steel bits as it will be reving high
Linch
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26th Jun 10 at 17:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i had 160bhp with a standard x16xe and just throttle bodies, cams with standard lifters and a 4 branch would see 190 as broster said.
Rob-e91
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quote:
Originally posted by Linch
i had 160bhp with a standard x16xe and just throttle bodies, cams with standard lifters and a 4 branch would see 190 as broster said.


Nice!! i didnt know that was achievable

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