Chris F
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Mot rules for exhausts have changed and the mot place won't even test it? I tried at 2 places! Says the sound can't be greater than one produced by a STD car, so is my only choice to put a STD cat back on for mot?
Surly this has happened to someone else?
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Brett
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No DB meter pulled out or anything? Sounds funny.
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Chris F
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Nope but both places showed me the new rules on paper!
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Brett
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What exhaust you got on? Full system or just a backbox?
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alan-g-w
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this has always been the rule, never seen it enforced though.
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Chris F
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4-1, cat back!
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tom_simes
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Yep, I had one place tell me they wouldn't do it.
I just rang another and asked him, and he said as long as it's not excessively noisy he'll pass it.
4 hours later, it had a nice new green sheet of paper
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tom_simes
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Chris, have a look at the note at the bottom of this page - is this what they showed you?
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s07000101.htm
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oceansoul
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Ask to see a setpoint of a standard car (in dB), and make sure he is using a calibrated dB meter to test your exhaust. Thats the only way it could be enforced.
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alan-g-w
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quote: Originally posted by oceansoul
Ask to see a setpoint of a standard car (in dB), and make sure he is using a calibrated dB meter to test your exhaust. Thats the only way it could be enforced.
It's all down to the discretion of the tester so this is irrelevant.
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oceansoul
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quote: Originally posted by alan-g-w
quote: Originally posted by oceansoul
Ask to see a setpoint of a standard car (in dB), and make sure he is using a calibrated dB meter to test your exhaust. Thats the only way it could be enforced.
It's all down to the discretion of the tester so this is irrelevant.
Then take your custom elsewhere.
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alan-g-w
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Obviously
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AlexW
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quote: Originally posted by alan-g-w
this has always been the rule, never seen it enforced though.
Snap!
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Andy Stocker
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So a Nurburgring Astra with a Remus exhaust as standard is ok, but the same exhaust on my VXR would not be ok as it's louder than the standard one?
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Chris F
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Yeah mate, load of rubbish!
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Chris F
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quote: Originally posted by tom_simes
Chris, have a look at the note at the bottom of this page - is this what they showed you?
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s07000101.htm
Yes mate! I been handed tht in paper form lol
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DaveyLC
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The exhaust testing is subjective and it always has been.
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tom_simes
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quote: Originally posted by Chris F
quote: Originally posted by tom_simes
Chris, have a look at the note at the bottom of this page - is this what they showed you?
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s07000101.htm
Yes mate! I been handed tht in paper form lol
To quote:
quote:
a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition.
Therefore as Davey has said, it is entirely subjective - the crucial word there is 'unreasonably'. It's allowed to be louder, as long as it is still 'within reason', which is the subjective bit.
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random dav
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I always use garages who have an understanding of modified cars none of these road warrior style places
WRLFC !
Project cars
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alan-g-w
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to the OP - I think you'll find a garage local to the ones you're trying has maybe been rumbled for doing dodgy MOTs or something like that and maybe VOSA are doing more checks in the area if you know what I mean.
[Edited on 01-10-2010 by alan-g-w]
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Chris F
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Yeah seams that way, trying a few tmrw!
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Ian
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quote:
clearly unreasonably above
it doesn't have to be the same, just not massively louder.
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Ben G
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quote: Originally posted by DaveyLC
The exhaust testing is subjective and it always has been.
which is completely wrong as every car should be tested against the same rules and regulations.
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Chris F
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What's everyones ideas then?
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Ben G
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find a dodgy MOT place, give him a tenner and he'll most likely do it.
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