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Rob B

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10th Oct 10 at 20:16

Hey guys, fitted my GAZ coilovers which i had to wait 20 days for.

i wasn't impressed with gaz on a friends car but there the only company i could find where you can specify spring rates.

Now after fitting them after the wait for them to come, on droop ( no load ) The spring can move i'd say just over an inch..

I think ok, that's not right but i took it for a drive and all i can hear is the spring moving around all over the place.

Has anyone else had this problem? I'm going to fit helper springs which i hope will sort it, but how can a company supply a £700 set of suspension like this..

Mieran

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10th Oct 10 at 20:30

call warren and tell him the problem

corsadonk

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10th Oct 10 at 20:32

A. How fair have you wound the nut down?

Robin

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10th Oct 10 at 20:33

If the springs move with the suspension compressed, surely it's on the bumpstops and there's no suspension travel at all?

corsadonk

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10th Oct 10 at 20:37

Have you got a picture?

Rob B

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10th Oct 10 at 20:39

quote:
Originally posted by Robin
If the springs move with the suspension compressed, surely it's on the bumpstops and there's no suspension travel at all?

They don't with the weight of the car on it, however as soon as you hit a bump you can hear the spring moving about, jack it up just a little bit and then the spring can move.

It's about 10 threads off the bottom on the adjuster and there is still a good inch gap between tyre and arch.

corsadonk

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10th Oct 10 at 20:41

Wind them up a bit then.

Rob B

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10th Oct 10 at 20:42

If i wind them up so the spring doesnt move on droop, then it's going to raise the car above stock height or very close to it.

RCS

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10th Oct 10 at 22:11

quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
Hey guys, fitted my GAZ coilovers which i had to wait 20 days for.

i wasn't impressed with gaz on a friends car but there the only company i could find where you can specify spring rates.

Now after fitting them after the wait for them to come, on droop ( no load ) The spring can move i'd say just over an inch..

I think ok, that's not right but i took it for a drive and all i can hear is the spring moving around all over the place.

Has anyone else had this problem? I'm going to fit helper springs which i hope will sort it, but how can a company supply a £700 set of suspension like this..

You can buy springs yourself you know...D. Faulkner, Hyperco, Eibach.

And you answered the question yourself...£700 a set. The stuff I work with is £700 a damper, £1200-1500 if its a strut.

Rob B

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10th Oct 10 at 22:14

The stuff i work with at Pyro is too but that doesn't matter.

I know i can buy springs my self, but i bought an off the shelf kit designed to fit my car as in bolt on and drive. Not have to remove, fit my own helper springs or buy my own different springs.

Regardless, if i fit longer springs, it will push the piston up meaning the coilovers will be ineffective and it will be a ridiculously high height.

Adam-D

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10th Oct 10 at 22:15

sounds like you need helper springs.

Linch

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10th Oct 10 at 22:46

I had no problems with the gaz on my car, but when warren bought them, he said they had burst seals, never effected the handling on mine or the ride.

Rob B

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10th Oct 10 at 22:58

Did the springs move alot or at all when jacked up Linch?

SXI - Matt

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10th Oct 10 at 23:10

Get another one off them send them back deff ain't right providing there fitted right

spikedjack

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10th Oct 10 at 23:17

longer spring with a lesser rate?

or thin profile helper spring needed?

gazza808

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11th Oct 10 at 09:00

mine moves around 1.5 inches when jacked right up,
did you copper grease the bushes when you fitted them?
as thats probably what you can hear.

[Edited on 11-10-2010 by gazza808]

[Edited on 11-10-2010 by gazza808]

Rob B

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11th Oct 10 at 12:35

quote:
Originally posted by gazza808
mine moves around 1.5 inches when jacked right up,
did you copper grease the bushes when you fitted them?
as thats probably what you can hear.

[Edited on 11-10-2010 by gazza808]

[Edited on 11-10-2010 by gazza808]

There aren't any bushes on the macpherson strut.

I spoke to Gaz and they believe it's because i've had 600lb springs from them that's what's causing the spring to jump around and extend the shock momentarily causing the noise and movement.

Sending me a set of helper springs so that should sort it i hope!

gazza808

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11th Oct 10 at 13:15

Fail for some reason I thought is was on a corsa?

600lb springs shit me? That's hard.

Rob B

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11th Oct 10 at 13:18

quote:
Originally posted by gazza808
Fail for some reason I thought is was on a corsa?

600lb springs shit me? That's hard.

Yeah, i should of mentioned the car really!

it seems the usual choice for a E36 track car when running semi slicks, and that's what i'll be running unless it's wet, then no doubt i'll be having some fun

3CorsaMeal

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11th Oct 10 at 13:18

did they come assembled with spring plates on etc?

Rob B

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11th Oct 10 at 13:19

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
did they come assembled with spring plates on etc?

They came assembled with spring tops then you put your original top mount over the top.

I wish i could get a refund for them now and buy something else tbh.

3CorsaMeal

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11th Oct 10 at 13:24

sounds very odd to me, can't picture whats wrong apart from no helper springs, even so, they should come supplied you would of though.

have you spoke to GAZ about it?

taken any photos?

Jake

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11th Oct 10 at 18:31

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
sounds very odd to me, can't picture whats wrong apart from no helper springs, even so, they should come supplied you would of though.

have you spoke to GAZ about it?

taken any photos?

do you just skim read threads for a mention of a corrado then reply?

3CorsaMeal

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11th Oct 10 at 21:10

sorry mate. I don't quite know what mean this time

Warren G

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11th Oct 10 at 22:22

quote:
Originally posted by Mieran
call warren and tell him the problem

hello

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