Graham88
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Right basically, I can't get to the camber adjusters of my coilovers at the moment.
I'm wanting to get my suspension setup but instead of £120 + VAT they want £200 + VAT to take the suspension out and do it that way, rather than on the car?
They said it would weaken the struts by cutting it away. But I can't see how, it's just a small bit of metal and the strut brace is far thicker than what I'm cutting? I'd rather not cut it but I also don't want to pay £240 for a fast road setup 
It's 78mm by my calculations, and I have a holesaw to do it, just don't want to fuck my car up lol.
This is the top of my strut:
Just wanted some opinions as I know there are a few suspension gurus on here.
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John
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A chunk of suspension strut being cut off would put a lot of people of buying it in the future.
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Graham88
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If they notice 
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lee303
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it may weaken it very slighty, because the original metal has a dip pressed in it, but we’re talking verily little amounts here, as the majority of the load will be going through the strut brace plate into the turret and the top mount doesn’t actually bear on the turret outside of that point anyway, go for it i say!
[Edited on 31-01-2011 by lee303]
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Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by John
A chunk of suspension strut being cut off would put a lot of people of buying it in the future.
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andyc1234
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will you actually be able to get to the bolts with that cut out though? doesnt look like it
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alan-g-w
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It doesn't either andyc
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Kurt
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Why the fuck did they supply coilovers with pillowball tops anyway knowing you couldn't adjust them 
Could you not just fit camber bolts at the bottom instead?
[Edited on 31-01-2011 by Kurt]
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lee303
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i think you could, the strut top mounting surface seems to be the same diameter as the strut brace plate
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SportBoy
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if it was mine id get them cut out, cant see no drama. other than as said unless some1 turns there nose up at it when you sell it.
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derick-sport
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cut it out put rubber round the edge hey preso will look neater than factory and wont make much difference
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Cole
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I wouldn't be using a hole saw If it was me as it won't cut exactly where you want it to as there will be no pilot hole and it will just spin all over the place I would get small grinding tool on it might take longer but will look better
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Graham88
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quote:
Originally posted by andyc1234
will you actually be able to get to the bolts with that cut out though? doesnt look like it
Yeah you will be able too, certainly alot better than you can atm, bit of a stupid design!!
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Originally posted by derick-sport
cut it out put rubber round the edge hey preso will look neater than factory and wont make much difference
Good plan...I'd have to paint the edges if I cut it anyway as otherwise it may rust, so this could make it look neat.
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Originally posted by Cole
I wouldn't be using a hole saw If it was me as it won't cut exactly where you want it to as there will be no pilot hole and it will just spin all over the place I would get small grinding tool on it might take longer but will look better
I have thought that but my way of thinking is the hole I'd cut is around 78mm, to allow for being able to fit the tool in there, and then the strut brace should stop it moving around
Just in 2 minds about it tbh, don't want to cut it then the suspension company refuse to do it or something go wrong and the strut is fucked, but people do it on cars all the time especially drift cars etc, but loadsa people saying it's a bad idea on this
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Brett
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All I can say is what I'd do and there's no way I'd be cutting up my new car 
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Corsa_Sport21
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Right this may be a stupid question but how can it be set-up for the car,while its off the car??
Will they be doing it trial and error??
I say pay the extra,its a small price to pay for what could potentially be a big future risk.
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Ian
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You can't use a hole saw, there's no pilot hole.
Unless it's a tight fit inside the strut brace it'll just shake about and rag everything. If it is a tight fit it'll mark the strut brace.
You would be better removing the strut brace and bolting it a blank which is marked for the hole saw.
The only reason not to cut is strength. Resale value is largely unaffected. I've never checked anything like that when I've bought a car. If it's cut cleanly and treated properly you wouldn't even notice on inspection.
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Steve
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i wouldnt tbh, noone here really knows what they are talking about enough to make a change like that imo
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Steve
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im not saying dont do it, but id get more advice then people off here before doing that to a modern car like yours
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VrsTurbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
You can't use a hole saw, there's no pilot hole.
Unless it's a tight fit inside the strut brace it'll just shake about and rag everything. If it is a tight fit it'll mark the strut brace.
You would be better removing the strut brace and bolting it a blank which is marked for the hole saw.
The only reason not to cut is strength. Resale value is largely unaffected. I've never checked anything like that when I've bought a car. If it's cut cleanly and treated properly you wouldn't even notice on inspection.
Get some wood and bolt that to the under side then you'll have something to pilot with 
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Kurt
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Or just adjust it from the bottom with camber bolts?
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broster
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I cut my old corsa b top mounts out and we have cut the top mounts out on our focus rs which has bc coilovers, there is no harm in it!
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Corsa_Sport21
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Whats the deal with the BC coilovers??Are they a cheap budget set??
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gazza808
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I used a hole saw on my mates corsa ones,
Used old top mount and a bush I turned at work to locate,
Came out extremely neat 
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LeeM
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id cut it, only little bit i cant imagine it having much of a negative effect. esoecialy with a strut brace on
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RCS
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I see no problem in doing that.
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