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Ojc
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Lets take nuclear weapons out of the equation for a second

Lets also say we pulled out all of our troops out of these god forsaken Arab countries and have them soley based in the UK.

What exactly do we have left in terms of numbers? Aircraft, ships, troops, anti aircraft defence of this Isle? If a lone Russian tried to strike at our radar bases are they equipped with anything SAM devices?

Or put it another way, if this country was under threat of invasion from Aliens what could we throw at them?

[Edited on 24-03-2011 by Ojc]
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Can we fire will_doyle at them?

Irritating enough to bore the aliens into leaving our planet?
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How many tin foil hemlets do you own ojc?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Armed_Forces
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Armed_Forces


i like the size section, where the army has got smaller and smaller since 1951
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we are building supercarriers now aswell, queen elizabeth class, look like this



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I think englands strongest force is the keyboard warriors without a doubt
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Will do they, you don't need massive armed forces anymore. You won't ever have two sides fighting in trenches, it's all about tactical strikes.

We took out an entire countries armed forces with the use of aircraft in a matter of days.

What I want to know is why the French have a bigger defence budget than us, when was the last time they done anything meaningful apart from build the Magniot line which the Germans proceeded to just go around the back of.
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they are fucking useless, same as the italians

fit all there jets with six reverse thrusters
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Will do they, you don't need massive armed forces anymore. You won't ever have two sides fighting in trenches, it's all about tactical strikes.

We took out an entire countries armed forces with the use of aircraft in a matter of days.

What I want to know is why the French have a bigger defence budget than us, when was the last time they done anything meaningful apart from build the Magniot line which the Germans proceeded to just go around the back of.


i spose its like playing civilisations, as soon as you can build tanks you stop producing men with bows & arrows

would take quite a lot of clique mobs to take down a tanks
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I don't know why the French even have a navy, they had a sizeable one in WWII and refused to use it an we ended up having to sink the majority of them @ Mers-El-Kebir.
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I would say the french are far from useless
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i generally think if we went to war or world war developed and rioting happened i would be able to defend my house with a barret .50cal and a side arm.
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quote:
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I would say the french are far from useless


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For such a small country having 233,860 troops and 191,300 reserves is pretty substantial.
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if we get invaded by africa i would simply throw my electrical goods at them, this would distract them enough for me to make my getaway, while they decide amoungst them how to spend the white mans money in the most wasteful way possible.
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
if we get invaded by africa i would simply throw my electrical goods at them, this would distract them enough for me to make my getaway, while they decide amoungst them how to spend the white mans money in the most wasteful way possible.



Ever been to Birmingham? looks like we have already been invaded by Africa
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Last I heard it was about 110k troops, 200k was back in 2006 odd!
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Still got loads of HAA guns though.
http://www.anti-aircraft.co.uk/HAA_gun_sites_map.html

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we have more than you think to throw back

the RAF Regt are equiped with SAM to protect the air bases
of those air fields, a selection of these hold the QRF (Quick Reaction Force) which is on constant standby with Tornado F3 fighters and are airbourne within 2 minutes from the call to scramble iirc

we have a select number of RAF bases under USAAF and i cannot see why they would sit on their hands as it is in their interests to protect their airfields (Bombers have left RAF Lakenheath this week flying to Libya)

all the RAF Hawks (including the Red Arrows) are equiped to be air-to-air fighters following small modifications (less than 48 hours) as a last line defence after the Tornado F3 force.

the RAF have aroudnd 50k personnel, the Army 90-110k depending on the data you read, not sure about the Navy but i suspect 50K

there are goodness knows how many reservists that can be called up, and those who have retired from service but held on "standby" for just such a situation when the brown starts hitting the fan they can be called back into uniform.

I cannot talk for Army or Navy forces but in terms of air power we have enough to hold of any invasion until the Army and Navy are up to speed
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quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
I think englands strongest force is the keyboard warriors without a doubt
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How many Tornados do we have then? Along with Typhoons?
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
Still got loads of HAA guns though.
http://www.anti-aircraft.co.uk/HAA_gun_sites_map.html




Bloody hell, thought there'd be a few but not that many!
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben D
I don't know why the French even have a navy, they had a sizeable one in WWII and refused to use it an we ended up having to sink the majority of them @ Mers-El-Kebir.


We've just supplied the French Navy with 5 Submarine Pilot boats at a cost of approximately £3million. We're one fo the three UK enabled MoD suppliers of Millitary RIBs and we haven't supplied to them in 5years+, all we see is service work of older craft.

Aside from the Offshore Raiding Craft (ORCs), I can't really think of any newly developed small craft in the UK military

[Edited on 24-03-2011 by LiVe LeE]

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