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Steve
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7th Apr 11 at 08:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Been reading about this quite a bit lately and noticed a story on the BBC website with some first proper images

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12308437

can really get the idea of its scale next to the Illustrious class
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Saw the section that's being built in our yard the other day, it's massive! Tbf it was easy enough to get lost on the old ones, god knows what these will be like!

Apparently it's costing £1 million a day to make
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7th Apr 11 at 10:14   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I have been reading about these as well, finaly we get a proper size Aircraft carrier! only taken 40 years to catch up the US
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Excellent
Ojc
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This is better news. But what aircraft do they plan on putting on it? Sopwith Camels and converted Hurricanes?
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What is the scale of the QE compared to Ark royal?
Dom
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What is the scale of the QE compared to Ark royal?


Shows you on the bbc website but QE class is around 100m longer than Invincible (Ark).
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This is better news. But what aircraft do they plan on putting on it? Sopwith Camels and converted Hurricanes?


They are going to be Cat launched now, the F35 order has been changed.

I reckon they will buy the F18 as a stop gap.

or they could they convert the Typhoon to Naval versions?

tbh, just bring the spitfire back.
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So basically American crap? Why can't build something of our own? We didn't own most of the world some point by buying second class muskets from the Chinese.
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So basically American crap? Why can't build something of our own? We didn't own most of the world some point by buying second class muskets from the Chinese.


American crap?

Raptor or typhoon? Ummm.......
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Typhoon with better educated pilots.
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quote:
Originally posted by ryzer
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Originally posted by Ojc
This is better news. But what aircraft do they plan on putting on it? Sopwith Camels and converted Hurricanes?


They are going to be Cat launched now, the F35 order has been changed.

I reckon they will buy the F18 as a stop gap.

or they could they convert the Typhoon to Naval versions?

tbh, just bring the spitfire back.


F18 isnt available for export
Jambo
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F16s
Ojc
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MiG 15's
Steve
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F-86 Sabre's
ryzer
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Thing is we will spend stupid amounts converting the typhoons, and now the f35 is not going to be STOVL anyway the typhoons payload will be higher anyway, I say we cancel the f35 and have 2 squadrons on the carrier.

Hopefully they won't just wait for the f35, I don't want our carrier with nothing on it, or worse, french aircraft.
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f35 is capable of vertical take off?
Jambo
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Just refurb some P51's
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What happened to all the planes we had on HMS Ark Royal & HMS Illustrious? did we sell them?
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harriers, decommissioned
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f35 is capable of vertical take off?


Not the f35c variant which we have switched from, we were originally buying the 'b' which would be a STOVL aircraft like our harrier, but it has a much less fuel capacity, and plus our carriers are big boys now!
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so we arent getting the b? seems a bit pointless
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Nope, c, the non vertical one.

We don't need a VTOL aircraft anyway, harriers were originally designed to operate from remote locations, that's not needed anymore, now we need greater range.
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project scrapped and/or sold/given to Bangladesh before/upon completion tbh for 1/1,000,000th of the project cost IMO
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Its this or Astute and if they stop the Astute project, we'll never be able to build Submarines in the UK again

[Edited on 07-04-2011 by LiVe LeE]

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