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11th May 11 at 16:30

Now I'm one to think that the best thing about roids, is by not using them!

But are there any 'minor' roids out there, just to further up the process a little bit? I'm obviously not talking about the heavy heavy stuff.

And are there any that can aid in fat loss, or is the best way to burn excess fat literally just a good diet and lots of cardio?

I can't seem to differentiate my diet between wanting to lose fat, yet eat loads to bulk up with the muscle...... What's the best options for wanting to bulk and lose weight at the same time, in terms of calories and what you should and shouldn't eat.....

Jake

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11th May 11 at 17:19

you cant bulk and lose fat. hence the terms bulk and cut

sc0ott

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11th May 11 at 17:55

Mass gainer?
Creatine?
Pics?

big eck

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11th May 11 at 21:47

Effigen helps you loose weight while loads of protein will help you bulk up. Creatine helps the muscle stay pumped up giving the big look.

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11th May 11 at 22:51

Was just curious on the roids side of things. Im sure some are used to really help strip fat, and quite quickly, also..... So any idea on the roids?

BarnshaW

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12th May 11 at 06:12

are you serious? there are some roids which will assist in stripping fat however you can get get legal items such as thermabol etc which are meant to increase your body temp and brun more clories/burn fat.

failing that eat a high protein only diet with no carbs and watch the fat strip off.

Tom G

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12th May 11 at 11:33

quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
are you serious? there are some roids which will assist in stripping fat however you can get get legal items such as thermabol etc which are meant to increase your body temp and brun more clories/burn fat.

failing that eat a high protein only diet with no carbs and watch the fat strip off.

Thermobol is quite expensive considering what you can get thaty is more effective?

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12th May 11 at 11:53

quote:
Originally posted by big eck
Effigen helps you loose weight while loads of protein will help you bulk up. Creatine helps the muscle stay pumped up giving the big look.

Agree with the above. Does Creatine make you retain a lot of water though?

sc0ott

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12th May 11 at 12:09

Creatine basically pumps your muscles up with water hence why you have to drink loads of it when on the stuff.

Jake

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12th May 11 at 13:04

when steroids and hgh dont work creatine is the way forward

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12th May 11 at 14:17

quote:
Originally posted by BarnshaW
are you serious? there are some roids which will assist in stripping fat however you can get get legal items such as thermabol etc which are meant to increase your body temp and brun more clories/burn fat.

failing that eat a high protein only diet with no carbs and watch the fat strip off.

Well yes I was, and now not sure with you saying that

I think I've tried thermabol before and it made me feel sick as fuck sometimes.

With out wanting to sound dumb, the difference between protein and creatine is what??? Is creatine a thing you mix with water as well, or.....?

jamez_zz

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12th May 11 at 14:31

Clenbuterol & T5 with a strict, clean diet and plenty of cardio.

sc0ott

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12th May 11 at 15:04

Protein builds muscle, creatine just fills them with water but gives you a little bit more strength (imo). When you come off the creatine you will lose a lot of water, so you do the maths.
Some say you can just keep taking it but it gets boring.
You can take creatine with water, fruit juice, milk, jizz what ever you want.

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12th May 11 at 16:12

quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Protein builds muscle, creatine just fills them with water but gives you a little bit more strength (imo). When you come off the creatine you will lose a lot of water, so you do the maths.
Some say you can just keep taking it but it gets boring.
You can take creatine with water, fruit juice, milk, jizz what ever you want.

So do you take protein and creatine, or what???

As I say, I'm currently using USN pure protein.

sc0ott

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12th May 11 at 17:05

Weight gainer - universil real gains.
When i do take creatine its prolab monohydrate stuff.

c4rsa-sport

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12th May 11 at 17:48

i have been taking a few t5's, wasnt keen on them made my stomach feel dodgy, now im just back to hard work at the gym instead, im happy with the way i look dont want roids

Rob R

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12th May 11 at 20:35

quote:
Originally posted by Jake
when steroids and hgh dont work creatine is the way forward

I hear the holland and barret creatine is like banging 400mg of dbol down your neck a day without the side effects.

sc0ott

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12th May 11 at 21:13

Creatine is shite tbh

Rob R

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13th May 11 at 12:36

It don't agree with me and gives me bad acne for some reason. Maybe it is dbol in disguise...

Jake

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13th May 11 at 12:47

theres men, nutter at my gym, dressed in yeti suits that have put on over a stone in muscle using just 20g of creatine a day

Fro

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13th May 11 at 13:17

I mix it in with my mass gainer/progain/what ever weight gain shiz i pick up from the shelf.

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13th May 11 at 19:26

So creatine is shite, creatine is really good, and creatine has given some one acne, so a bit inconclusive then

I'm still on the USN pure protein, so is it worth taking creatine then???

Jake

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13th May 11 at 19:36

i put on about 3kg of water weight on creatine. gallon of water a day though

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13th May 11 at 19:38

quote:
Originally posted by Jake
i put on about 3kg of water weight on creatine. gallon of water a day though

And does that generally give pure mas, appose to definition? Or does it do both?

Jake

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13th May 11 at 20:21

no definition. think of it like swollen muscle

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