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Author Anyone running a diesel on veg oil?
Robin
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25th May 11 at 17:44   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What are your experiences?

And what cars are you running?
--ToM--
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Red diesel works good for me
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I've got an old 1.9 Diesel polo I'm running on new vegi oil.

It probably runs smoother now, does smell a bit and is a little harder to get started when the engine is cold.

I'm still getting over 50 mpg and its costing £1 a litre.
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Used to run my astra van on a 50/50 mix. Nearly a pound a litre for veg oil but still a fair saving.

Mine used to smoke a bit with it and was obvious to the smell.
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never done it myself, but ive heard mixed reviews on it

some people say a 50/50 mix works well, others say the any veg oil put in the diesel causes blockages in the fuel pumps and injectors - mainly in newer cars?

my mates dad apparently ran his diesel BMW on a 50/50 mix of aviation fuel and veg oil, said it went like stink
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Older things are good with it, i.e Pug 405's etc...Newer stuff I wuddnt bother, Fuel pumps etc, - Your go through fuel filters every so often, it'll stink aswell.
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quote:
Originally posted by jonnieboy
never done it myself, but ive heard mixed reviews on it

some people say a 50/50 mix works well, others say the any veg oil put in the diesel causes blockages in the fuel pumps and injectors - mainly in newer cars?

my mates dad apparently ran his diesel BMW on a 50/50 mix of aviation fuel and veg oil, said it went like stink


I know somebody who use to do this in a e92 320d Too much money for me to mess around with tbh.

To be safe, get some older and non turbo. Old pugs/citreon and vw spring to mind.
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im doing it in my disco both clean and waste veg oil
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quote:
Originally posted by scottyp1989
im doing it in my disco both clean and waste veg oil


When i had my 200 tdi disco i went to tesco and it worked out £1.31 a litre!

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no point unless you can get cheap or free waste veg oil but then you have the hassle of filtering it and storing it.

The price of veg oil means this just isn't worth the trouble compared to what it used to be imo.

I ran a mk 1 mondeo td on 100% svo for a year with no probs back when veg oil worked out at 60p/litre.
corsadonk
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25th May 11 at 19:28   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I put used hydraulic oil in my 1.5 TD Corsa, works a treat.

I mix it 50/50ish, so works out 65p a litre
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Ran my van on it (1.9d Berlingo) and it ran better than derv!
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I put a tank of biodiesel (the proper stuff from a pump in North London) in the Ibiza once, ran like a bag of beans. Went back to diesel and it was fine.
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quote:
Originally posted by richc
quote:
Originally posted by jonnieboy

To be safe, get some older and non turbo. Old pugs/citreon and vw spring to mind.


Doesn't matter if its turbo'd or not.
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I've researched the fuck out of this...

You need a car with a fuel pump that can take it usually a bosch/bosch copy.
The injectors should have some cleaner shit put through them first to make sure the veg oil atomises properly as its thicke than diesel.
An inline fuel heater puts less stress on the pump and injectors and also atomises the fuel better.
Change your oil maybe twice as often depending on the engine mileage, as the veg oil turns the engine oil into jelly eventually, as you always get a slight seepage past the piston rings.
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A fuel/coolant water heat exchanger fuel heater is the best.
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Also the veg oil will clean out your tank and lines so you NEED to change the fuel filter more often for the first few thousands miles.

[Edited on 25-05-2011 by sand-eel]
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I ran a td mondeo on pure veg oil with a splash of white spirit to give it an extra bang, wound the actuator out on the turbo a bit and it ran fine for me
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Use it in my 200tdi. Goes fine but just stinks

Going to start using it in my Mk4 Astra 1.7TD next week

Its 1.10 a litre here though

[Edited on 26-05-2011 by Chris x]
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was behind a mondeo a while back it stunk like a fish shop

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I was hoping to be able to run biodiesel in my Ibiza when i got it but the handbook says in big letters not to use it.

Made my old 206 1.4hdi twice as quick but then the clutch started slipping
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I've got 60L of used stuff here if anyone wants it
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
I've got 60L of used stuff here if anyone wants it
Me

How much p&p?
sand-eel
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Could put it on a pallet for prob £50
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quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
Could put it on a pallet for prob £50
Sounds good!

What is it, just veg oil?

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