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emicen
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Alex Salmond jibbering again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13549172

Question is, will he manage to push it through this time. I'm not much enamoured with the idea of Glasgow becoming as expensive as Norway (£9 a pint, quite glad its the company paying whenever I'm out) but at the same time, it is an issue that needs addressed.

They've tried alcohol awareness, banning happy hours etc. Really, pricing is the one they haven't tried yet.

Add in this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13559455

And you could conclude if Scotland end up doing it, just like the smoking ban, England and Wales will follow on pretty quickly.
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26th May 11 at 11:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Doesn't affect me, I rarely drink anyway.
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People with a problem will just find the extra money, it'll only serve to annoy your normal hard worker who enjoys a beer, as usual.
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I'll just drink petrol... oh no, wait... thats expensive too
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quote:
Originally posted by John
People with a problem will just find the extra money, it'll only serve to annoy your normal hard worker who enjoys a beer, as usual.


Too right
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If you are medically diagnosed as an alcoholic on benefits I believe you get an alcohol allowance anyways? So that covers those with a problem.

Its the jack-the-lads and student weekend booze warriors I think they're after.

One thing I can say is I never realised how far spread the knowledge of our country's booze problems was. Loads of people abroad keep commenting how although drink costs a lot it better than having the problems we do
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1000000 people in a year just in england is pretty bad tbh
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a bottle of bucky is already up at £7 as it is :@
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quote:
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People with a problem will just find the extra money, it'll only serve to annoy your normal hard worker who enjoys a beer, as usual.


Probably with more crime.
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'Bucky' should be up at £10 a bottle imo.

the way 14 - 30 year olds act after drinking the stuff is beyond a joke. acting as if they can take on the world.
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They can fuck off with all of this! Its like been a fucking child again! 'You can't do this, you can't do that!'

Government are worse than my mother!
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No problem them putting it on beer, it's not an essential. I need a fuel to get to work, gas to keep me warm and food on the table. Those are what takes the piss IMO!!!
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They ALL take the piss, Andrew.
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Indeed. Whats the use in having fuel to Goto work if you can't afford to buy owt!
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Plus if beer price goes up. Less folk drink which means there's less pissed up ladies about thus lower your chance of getting laid, Andrew!
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i got a £10 gift voucher for complaining about the quality of a rotten chicken online, then found x2 crates of larger for £16, then my 10% discount...

x2 crates for less than £5

i was dancing out the door
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Gordon Brown rejected the minimum price per unit idea for England as he said it would 'punish responsible drinkers", however Gordon Brown isn't there anymore so who knows
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He is right though.
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Exactly.

Unfortunately for the government this problem will cost them money.

More policing in towns and cities to cop the arseholes and harsh sentencing for them. But then that's the accountants, sorry, CPS's decision to prosecute. CJS is run on money not by what's right!
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quote:
Originally posted by mattant
Gordon Brown rejected the minimum price per unit idea for England as he said it would 'punish responsible drinkers", however Gordon Brown isn't there anymore so who knows


It depends tbh. Is there such a thing as a responsible £3/3ltr cider drinker? Do people getting in to a £1 vodka mix promo know where to draw the line?

I wouldn't like to see it get to Scandinavia levels admittedly, even as a rare drinker.
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That's cheap to make that point though.

And for the record, yes, I'm responsible whether I'm paying £10/pint or getting it for free.

The former being an insult to my willpower.

[Edited on 26-05-2011 by Ian]
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Yes. That will solve the social problem facing our society.
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quote:
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That's cheap to make that point though.

And for the record, yes, I'm responsible whether I'm paying £10/pint or getting it for free.

The former being an insult to my willpower.

[Edited on 26-05-2011 by Ian]


You have willpower, it puts you in the same bracket as me and indeed most of my friends, but this legislation has to target the other bracket will little to no willpower and even less social conscience.

Like the constant insurance legislation, it will punish the reasonable to target the unreasonable but is there really any other way to do it?

We've seen responsible drinking campaigns yet the problem keeps growing.

Harsher policing and sentencing isn't an option when the Police and courts are already overstretched.

Thin end of the wedge I fear, but its the state the nations in.

[Edited on 27-05-2011 by emicen]
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Deep routed cultural problem. Probably no "cure" as such, needs a nationwide reform in attitudes and behaviours.
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quote:
Originally posted by emicen

Harsher policing and sentencing isn't an option when the Police and courts are already overstretched.

[Edited on 27-05-2011 by emicen]


Its the only option that dosent punish the sensible drinkinkers.

But that would obv cost money and not make them money so no chance of that happening.

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