Steve
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People who went to Germany and going to love this post 
Dont even really know why im making a post because iv already ordered some stuff to fix it i think i just want to talk about it really lol
Went to germany as you probably know, got there, jacked my car up to do something and noticed there was play in rear wheel, could rock it slightly, wheel bearing i thought, had a spare on me and replaced it and all ok no more movement, did the other side and noticed movement there aswell, both wheels would turn freely and there was no bearing noise in motion, nor were there any real wear to the cones or roller bearings, or heat marks on the races, id add that the hub nuts were done up tight, and retorqued them to 235nm just to make sure
Went to a spares shop in Adenau and got another rear wheel bearing, replaced, and all good again.
about 1000 miles later, there is now play again in one side, do you think its because iv been using 3rd party bearing kits? or something to do with my axles spacers? or maybe my drums are knackered?
Iv ordered some new drums and genuine bearing kits, so hopefully that should fix will be interested to hear anyones thoughts though
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smcGSI16V
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This thread angers me.
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Steve
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iv been doing a bit of reading and i think it may be my axle spacers thats doing it, it was the inner bearing that had play, and extending the wheel out from the suspension point will put additional stress on the inner bearing race
the question is, will gen parts be strong enough to take this additional pressure
hmm
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Ben G
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axle spacers imo, mine are fine and i've done 17k miles since i got the car.
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smcGSI16V
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I think you worry to much Steve.
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Steve
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unfortaunately stu, worry doesnt make my wheel wobble 
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smcGSI16V
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wheel wobble worry.
try saying that quickly.
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Corsa_Sport21
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What did they do on the FRP to resolve the problem if its the axle spacers that are the causing the problem??
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smcGSI16V
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I think it could be the spacers you know.
I remember back in the day when I had Nova's they always said that if you had the wrong off set of wheel the bearings would wear quicker.
Its a similar thing offset and spacers.
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smcGSI16V
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Sport21
What did they do on the FRP to resolve the problem if its the axle spacers that are the causing the problem??
Steve will correct me if im wrong but iirc they fudged the lower arms and extended them to get the extra width/track rather than spacers.
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Steve
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yeah your right stu,
think im going to take off all the wheel spacers etc, only problem is my mondeo rims are the wrong offset without spacers etc they sit too far in and look silly, so i might try and get some new wheels for it, return everything stock, back to correct offset and 15"s
wouldnt mind something lightweight what do people think too
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willay
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spacers mate.
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Corsa_Sport21
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So what are your spacers off steve??
I thought they fitted the spacers to the rear of the FRP to give the extra width??
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Steve
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yeah they did, but they incorporate rear discs which have a different bearing setup
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Steve
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what you reckon?
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Corsa_Sport21
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Hmm not buying that tbh.
The spacers are still between the axle and hub,so surely regardless of the difference,the bearing will still be wearing down.
Whats the difference between the 2 bearings??
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Ben G
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are your mondeo wheels et 40? will handle shit. mine are et41 and handled awful before the 5mm spacers were on.
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Steve
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because you are pushing the hub and wheel away from the point of suspension you are increasing the load on the inner race, basically the opposite effect of spacing your wheels with normal spacers which increases load on the outer race
my setup uses two cone bearings which sit in the races and are held in by the whole lot done up tight, the discs use a bearing similar to what you get on the front of cars
looks similar to this
and is pressed into the hub, its a much more durable design, my currect ones are a bit of a shit design tbh and renowned for going quite often even with everything stock, they should be lasting a good year or two though not 1000miles lol
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Ben G
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also, speedline turini's are the absolute bollocks.
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
are your mondeo wheels et 40? will handle shit. mine are et41 and handled awful before the 5mm spacers were on.
yeah hence why everything is spaced out, it handles well at the mo, due to the spacing, but if i remove all that you are right it will handle crap hence me getting new wheels
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Steve
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or
I fancy a flatish spoke though, also may have to be silver
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lee303
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more likely the stub axles are just worn tbh, or the hub carrier/drum itself, happens a lot on novas, do they look worn? can you measure them? i very much doubt the wheel bearings are that close to their tolerance that a little extra pressure from the spacing of the wheel wears them out that quick
[Edited on 04-06-2011 by lee303]
[Edited on 04-06-2011 by lee303]
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Steve
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i cant personally measure them, might be able to get someone to, stub axles look ok though and the bearing slides over snuggly doesnt seem like an issue
could be a drum problem but im getting new ones anyway
i guess il just replace everything and it if still happens even with new drums, bearings and wheels, i guess i will have to try stub axles lol
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lee303
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i bet stub axles aren’t that expensive either, even a vernier caliper should be enough to show wear, they could have worn oval and are fucking the bearings because of this
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Steve
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so you think measure at four opposite sides and see if there is any variation?
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