Robbo
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15265317
very interestign article
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Budgie
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Originally posted by BBC
Alcohol education will have achieved its ultimate goal not when young people in this country are afraid of alcohol and avoid it because it is toxic and dangerous, but when they are frankly just a little bit bored by it, when they don't need to be told not to binge-drink vodka shots, any more than they now need to be told not to swig down 15 double espressos in quick succession.
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LeeM
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Originally posted by BBC
It does not cause us to say, "Oi, what you lookin' at?" and start punching each other. Nor does it cause us to say, "Hey babe, fancy a shag?" and start groping each other
this is a lie
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LeeM
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that whole article is a massive load of horse shit actually.
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Robbo
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Its not thought, not when you think abotu what shes saying
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ste_p23
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Originally posted by LeeM
that whole article is a massive load of horse shit actually. [/quote
X2 
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oceansoul
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Many people think heavy drinking causes promiscuity, violence and anti-social behaviour.
Erm....Thats because it does!
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LeeM
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If I were given total power, I could very easily engineer a nation in which coffee would become a huge social problem - a nation in which young people would binge-drink coffee every Friday and Saturday night and then rampage around town centres being anti-social, getting into fights and having unprotected sex in random one-night stands.
I would restrict access to coffee, thus immediately giving it highly desirable forbidden-fruit status. Then I would issue lots of dire warnings about the dangerously disinhibiting effects of coffee.
woman lives in a dream world.
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RichR
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I maintain that being drunk is as much down to the placebo effect of "oh, i'm drinking, I must be drunk" as it is to the actual effects of alcohol.
I got someone absolutly pissed, staggering, slurring, falling over, aggression followed by overly affectionate and all I'd been giving them was Kaliber non-alcohol beer in pint glasses. They had 5/6 pints of the stuff and acted like a cock!!
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mwg
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WTF Rich
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Ben G
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should've got that shit on video.
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Robbo
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
I maintain that being drunk is as much down to the placebo effect of "oh, i'm drinking, I must be drunk" as it is to the actual effects of alcohol.
yep, 100% agree. even if not drinking, in a pub etc. i act like ive had a few pints simply because of the environment
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RichR
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Originally posted by mwg
WTF Rich
Try it sometime, keep getting someone non-alcoholic lager and watch the results 
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mattk
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
I maintain that being drunk is as much down to the placebo effect of "oh, i'm drinking, I must be drunk" as it is to the actual effects of alcohol.
I disagree.
I do think however that some people should just not be allowed to drink fullstop. I like drinking, its one of the few things Im good at
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JonnyJ
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Sounds like your mate is just a bit of a fanny Rich. Nothing else.
If im not drunk and other people are, i dont act drunk, it pisses me off because i want to be having fun like them 
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mattk
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If I could act drunk without spending £100 a night Id do that instead
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Cavey
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Originally posted by LeeM
that whole article is a massive load of horse shit actually.
It's not though is it. The media, and the government want to make people think that EVERYONE EVERYWHERE who drinks and gets drunk then goes and starts a fight, and fucks anything that walks.
That's a load of horse shit. The vast majority of people go out, get pissed, then go home without any complications.
EDIT : (I may not of read the full article before posting that....) However, the placebo effect is bullshit...
[Edited on 12-10-2011 by Cavey]
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RichR
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How can you disagree when I follow it with a statement backing up what I think.
I'm happy for you to disprove it but the person drinking the non-alcoholic drink has to be unaware that its non-alcoholic
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JonnyJ
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Yes, ive heard of it happening before, but its always the same fannies who are pissed after a pint anyway.
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RichR
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wasn't aimed at you Jonny sorry, more at Matt but I started writing the reply before I knew you had posted.
I'd say the guy is relatively normal, 3-4pints and he'd start to show signs of being drunk, 5-6 and He'd definitely be drunk.
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John
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I'd like someone to try that on me, the only people I can see it working on are the sort of people that try and kid on they are drinking but actually miss out rounds or dispose of the drink otherwise.
Alcohol has a physical effect, surely a normal person would know.
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Eck
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Originally posted by LiVe LeE
I maintain that being drunk is as much down to the placebo effect of "oh, i'm drinking, I must be drunk" as it is to the actual effects of alcohol.
I got someone absolutly pissed, staggering, slurring, falling over, aggression followed by overly affectionate and all I'd been giving them was Kaliber non-alcohol beer in pint glasses. They had 5/6 pints of the stuff and acted like a cock!!
I strongly disagree with this, Rich. As I'm the exact opposite. In my mind I'm perfectly sober when I'm being held up at the bar
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mattk
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Im more agressive sobar than I am drunk, I love being pissed
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Ian
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She talks a bit of sense.
The campaigns are misguided, that is correct. And that alcohol doesn't cause the problems by its chemical effects.
I don't get violent when I'm pissed, and the people I know who do are can actually be just as much of a nightmare when they're sober. It just isn't as obvious.
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Hammer
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The placebo would only work on idiots.
Not drinking in a pub is shit as is drinking but not getting drunk.
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