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Paul_J
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8th Feb 12 at 21:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Noticed a mis fire on the s2000...

Checked the plugs:



... I've never seen that happen to a plug... properly break off.


What's mostly worrying is after changing this it still mis fires
Nic Barnes
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valve not seating right since? iridium are they paul?
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Happened to Faz few days ago
Adam-D
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compression test time.
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Was it snapped when you took the plug out? Guesses are it's still in the Combustion chamber ut oh!.

Shine a torch down there see if you can see it if you can try center it and crank it over should spit it out be carfull tho.

And Compression test it as said above
smcGSI16V
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vtec kick in.
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8th Feb 12 at 21:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
youve out driven your spark plugs with ur skillz m8
AK
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8th Feb 12 at 21:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
running lean?
Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Nic Barnes
valve not seating right since? iridium are they paul?


Yeah they're iridium...
... never seen one break off like that. Seemed fine when I drove it last.

quote:
Originally posted by Metta
Was it snapped when you took the plug out? Guesses are it's still in the Combustion chamber ut oh!.

Shine a torch down there see if you can see it if you can try center it and crank it over should spit it out be carfull tho.

And Compression test it as said above


Yeah, it was snapped when I took the plug out. So why wouldn't it spit it out when I run the engine? You saying, take the plug over and crank it over?
Nic Barnes
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iriduims are known to do that. widely reported across the internet paul.
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random as it sounds, extendable magnet throu plug hole. see if it picks anything up?
AK
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dont start it if you havent already!
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ok Adam, it's something worth trying - but I honestly don't get why that would cause a mis fire and why the bit wouldn't be blown out of the exhaust when I start the car?
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wait - you are asking why its misfiring with 50% of the tip missing? Or have you popped a new plug in and turned it over?

I really dont recomment starting the car if you know there is a plug tip in a bore.
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
dont start it if you havent already!


Not only started it but revved it up to clear it out.

I basically started the car yesterday morning to go to work, noticed a mis fire - thought it was the choke... revved it up to clear it out a bit - no luck -

So if there is something in there, it's well and truly smashed the shit out of itself


Put a brand new set of plugs in it tonight and it still misfires.

[Edited on 08-02-2012 by Paul_J]
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it could get caught in the valve... it could indent into the piston

plug can burn out though heat, heat can be caused though lean combusion - high tempertures etc

need to do a compression test
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min......

bore scope, leak-down test....
Jambo
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Nic Barnes
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what does other plugs look like?
Paul_J
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All other plugs looked fine.


Replaced em all anyway.
Warren G
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there not irdium

platuim tiped normal plugs

I use the same plugs but 6 grade in all the turbo cars i do...
AK
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you use a warmer plug in turbo cars?!?!
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yeah id be on 7's or 8's on a turbo. i use 8s in mine
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oh yeah haha... they're platinum that's what I meant.

I should know I just bought some new ones



[Edited on 08-02-2012 by Paul_J]
Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
you use a warmer plug in turbo cars?!?!


Astra VXR Standard rating plug is 6, same plugs as paul but 6 instead of 7

Use them upto stage 3, no issues, as do all the other tuners

and on 1.8 turbo's again no issues

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