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tom130691
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   10th Feb 12 at 10:17   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
driving along yesterday:


doing about 40 and lost all drive, i thourght clutch straight away,

how ever i still get gears with engine on and the speedo will go up with the revs,

recovery guy said inner cv (makes sense to me)
the garage i have dropped it at says (clutch)

only thing i can think of that take all of the above in to acount is the diff is dead?

help!!


[Edited on 10-02-2012 by tom130691]
Mike
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10th Feb 12 at 10:27   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Surely the speedo changing with the revs would suggest the clutch and box are fine, otherwise they wouldn't be able to spin the speedo drive?
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if clutch would have gone i would imagine that when selecting gears with engine on it would crunch like no ones business. Inner CV sounds plausible
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10th Feb 12 at 10:40   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If it's not moving at all the gearbox is spinning and turning the speedo but it isn't getting transfered to the wheels? Diff, new gearbox time
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10th Feb 12 at 10:45   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Diff or inner cv.
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
If it's not moving at all the gearbox is spinning and turning the speedo but it isn't getting transfered to the wheels? Diff, new gearbox time



this is what makes me think diff or cv, both of these will cause this,

however i cant remember, if i could get gears without clutch while engine running

if its a cv the corsa will live, if its clutch or box it will die.
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10th Feb 12 at 10:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
think im going to go the garage and pull the cv boot back my self, then it should be pretty simple to see if one side of the cv is moving and the other isnt.

i refuse to pay for a clutch if its not the problem, for all i know he will just do the cv and charge for the clutch, all garages are cunts
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Originally posted by pow
If it's not moving at all the gearbox is spinning and turning the speedo but it isn't getting transfered to the wheels? Diff, new gearbox time



this is what makes me think diff or cv, both of these will cause this,

however i cant remember, if i could get gears without clutch while engine running

if its a cv the corsa will live, if its clutch or box it will die.


Surely if both wheels aren't turning it's diff related, could BOTH inner CV's go at once?
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sounds like when one of my cv joints went, although i didn't know much back then and garage told me it was driveshaft so i presume they meant an end
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Driveshaft has popped out. Jack it up and pop it back in. Rubber mallet etc. 5 minute job.

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Driveshaft has popped out. Jack it up and pop it back in. Rubber mallet etc. 5 minute job.


Sounds exactly like that

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Pain on lowered corsas. I did it once with a rock I found on the side of the road. Improvise

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I thought I'd messed up my engine first time it happened to me!

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quote:
Originally posted by tom130691
think im going to go the garage and pull the cv boot back my self, then it should be pretty simple to see if one side of the cv is moving and the other isnt.

i refuse to pay for a clutch if its not the problem, for all i know he will just do the cv and charge for the clutch, all garages are cunts



No garages are there because you can't do the job , if you can do the job you wouldn't take it there . If you come to my garage and started dismantling your car in yard I would tell you to get fucked . If you don't trust your garage don't take it there. All garages are not cunts , the cunts IMO are the people who think they know more than garage but really know fuck all . Why didn't you take it home and check it out yourself before taking it to someone you dOnt trust?
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by tom130691
quote:
Originally posted by pow
If it's not moving at all the gearbox is spinning and turning the speedo but it isn't getting transfered to the wheels? Diff, new gearbox time



this is what makes me think diff or cv, both of these will cause this,

however i cant remember, if i could get gears without clutch while engine running

if its a cv the corsa will live, if its clutch or box it will die.


Surely if both wheels aren't turning it's diff related, could BOTH inner CV's go at once?


With an open diff all power will go to wheel that has less effort spinning.

Same as you will see people doing burn outs and one wheel wheel not turn and other will be up in smoke.

that is my understanding anyway
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10th Feb 12 at 12:41   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
But Tom is saying there isn't any wheelspin
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It wouldn't wheelspin in that case, it would just spin the shaft that was no longer attached to a wheel.
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That still requires both shafts to be broken in some way doesn't it? Moneys' still on diff
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CV joint 99% sure it is, if one goes then you wont get any power the the other wheel, I had exactly the same problem.
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doubt its the diff as they tend to lockup when broken (unless its a vag). A CV/UJ joint will be obvious by looking at it/pulling it ,


[Edited on 10-02-2012 by SportBoy]
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Pow your correct if it had an lsd with a normal diff all drive goes to wheel with less resistance aka on with broken joint


However saying that been to garage showed me both cvs are ok so pow wins with the diff despite not understanding

Will be broken down now for parts
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quote:
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That still requires both shafts to be broken in some way doesn't it? Moneys' still on diff


If one cv went you would have no drive at all, as john said. on an open diff you. Eed equal resistance on both side otherwise you will get no drive
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I also heard diffs seize but clutch and diff bothguna cost around 300ish
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by tom130691
quote:
Originally posted by pow
If it's not moving at all the gearbox is spinning and turning the speedo but it isn't getting transfered to the wheels? Diff, new gearbox time



this is what makes me think diff or cv, both of these will cause this,

however i cant remember, if i could get gears without clutch while engine running

if its a cv the corsa will live, if its clutch or box it will die.


Surely if both wheels aren't turning it's diff related, could BOTH inner CV's go at once?


no if one cv goes all the drive will go through the that broken joint

doubt its diff if speedo is going up, diff spins the speedo gear
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Just buy a new box mate, what engine is in the car? Gearboxs are easy to come buy and there cheap, buy yourself a newbox and clutch and fit it at home easy easy easy job

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